Monday by the Magazine Rack

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Hello

Good afternoon and welcome to Monday by the Magazine rack.

I’ve just returned from a weekend trip to Adelaide, which, by all accounts, was thoroughly enjoyable.

Despite its reputation, Adelaide is actually quite an interesting place. It’s also very pretty.

It’s also not Queensland, which further adds to its appeal.

And it’s very user-friendly. The airport is very nahce – and is only a twenty buck fair to the City. Compare this to Melbourne where a taxi ride to the city will now cost you fifty smackeroos.

Adelaide also has wine. Lots of wine. And good wine too.

There is also a very nice little seaside town called Glenelg. A very pleasant 30 minute tram trip from town and is similar to say Manly, but without the white trash.

Victor will no doubt provide a full report on the restaurants we went to, so I won’t dwell on that here.

One peculiarity is that the city is almost entirely shrouded in shade. I guess that’s because it’s facing South, or maybe it was just because it’s Winter.

It reminded me a lot of Christchurch but with the distinctive advantage of not being part of New Zealand.

However, Adelaide, like the rest of Australia, is not part of Asia. Which is always a disappointment when staying at five star hotels.

Compare the service you get here to the service one receives in a five star hotel in Asia, and by and large there is simply no comparison.

Catching the flight home also provided some entertainment, with an elderly lady behind me verbalising everything that she could see to her immediate family.

“Oh look, there’s a Cathay Pacific plane”

“It’s about to take off”

“Look Jimmy, the plane’s taking off”

“I think we’re about to take off now”

“I wonder when we’ll be taking off”

“Oh look, they sell coffee”

“And muffins”

“Do you want a muffin?”

“Does anyone else want a muffin?”

“Let’s just eat these chips I brought from home”

“I’m not paying five dollars for a muffin”

“Who in their right mind would pay five dollars for a muffin?”

“Glad I brought these cheezels with us too, eh”

“I wonder when we’re gonna land”

“Is that Hobart there?”

“Aw what a lovely beach”

“Can you see the beach?”

“There’s a coupla boats down there”

“Can you see the boats?”

“Can you see those two boats?”

“Down there.”

“Those two boats…”

“Can you see them?”

“Noice eh?”

“I can’t see the airport”

“Can anyone see the airport?”

“Maybe that’s not Hobart.”

“Where are we goin?”

“Is that Hobart?”

“That can’t be Hobart.”

“That’s a nice beach”

“Oh, he’s turnin’ the plane my way”

“ We’re turning around”

“Yeah, we’re turnin’ around”

“That’s a nice beach”

“Aw, that’s the same beach I saw earlier”

“Can you see the beach?”

“The beach. Can you see it?”

“Down there”

“Aw,and there’s those two boats.”

“Can you see ‘em?”

“Down there”

“the two boats”

“Nice eh?”

I think you get the general idea. This went on non-stop for the entire 90 minute duration of the flight.

All the while I was thinking “Excuse me madam but would you mind kindly just SHUTTING THE F**K UP!!”

But, it’s her family I felt sorry for. Imagine having to live with that night and day.

Jeesus wept.

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231 Responses

  1. Well that’s what you get for flying Jetstar reb…

  2. LOL reb – and if you read the sign for Glenelg backwards you get the same! Just like a mobius strip eh?

    We went to see Chicago on Sat nite with my sister and her hubby. Very good production. Gina Riley was excellent , were the other female leads. Craig McLaughin was forced and not convincing. After the show we went to BBQ King and had lots of yummy chinese food…..

    Then it was in Joomla all night setting up the new house.

  3. Well that’s what you get for flying Jetstar reb…

    hehe, I would’ve thought a WCP would have flown 1st class, times must be tough even for them. Guess if you want 5 star hotel accomodation you must make sacrifices somewhere 🙂

    Spoil yourself reb! (said semi seriously, I was getting concerned about your down mood – feeling better now?).

  4. Oh – and I had the opposite to the woman on the plane reb. I flew in Business Class from SYD to NY next to Steve Liebman – what a bore. Did not say two words the whole trip.

  5. Actually it was Tiger Airways.

    I refuse, simply refuse, to fly Jetstar.

    Yes Kitty, I’m feeling much better. Thanks for asking. (Unlike all these other miserable bastards who couldn’t care less).

    We spolied ourselves in Adelaide (at the boss’s expense).

    Had a fanstastic degustation dinner at a restaurant called the Wine Underground. I would say it was even better than Tetsuya’s and much cheaper.

    Joni, clearly you do not know how to wing it with celebrities.

    I would’ve commenced conversation with something along the lines of “say, aren’t you that c**t from the Today Show?”

    And then proceeded to get well-pissed and talk his ear off – “so whaddaya think of that w@nker Richard Wilkins then eh?”

  6. Mobius strip is Pirts Suibom? ie read backwards..??

  7. Joni..shame about Craig McLaughlin. He did an excellent job in the role of Stuart Diver in Heroes’ Mountain. A bit of an obscure movie, but well worth a look..even for the fact that McLaughlin is nek’id for 95% of the movie.

  8. Reminds me of a woman I once went out with who had to verbalise non stop during sex. It was one time I was glad men could get it over and done with in no time if they wanted to and still feel good afterwards.

  9. Reb..at least it wasn’t a flight from Perth to Sydney with a crying and upchucking baby sitting next to you all the way after having to catch the flight down from Karratha to Perth at 3am (hubby’s nightmare flight).

    Umm, Mobius..you don’t verbalise (at all?) during sex. Ok..end of topic.

  10. ok, at the risk or taking this conversation somewhere we really don’t ought go…

    When we (or more correctly, you two) talk about verbalising during sex, are you talking about…

    “oh, yeah…shag me….shag me…!”

    or

    “Honey, we really ought to fix the plaster work in the ceiling…”

  11. the BF just goes “beige – beige – we need to paint the ceiling beige”…

  12. (and the first thread of the week takes us to our second fav topic – after wine)

  13. Not going to deep but it was the former with more detail and not much dirty talk. Hard to explain without “toooo much information’.

  14. “A little bit to the left..”

    That sort of thing Mobius?

  15. Mate, once you start talking about verbalisinig in the bedroom – you’ve already passed the “too much information” line 🙂

    And joni, I wouldn’t say this is my favourite topic… might be in my top three favourite activities though 😛

  16. “Have you started yet?” is what I hear.

  17. Just me..but my Honey generally is not looking at the ceiling. Now if it was, Sweetheart..isn’t it about time that we thought about new carpet…

  18. Carpet burns Min?

  19. LOL – this is a clasic thread.

  20. Makes you wonder what type of magazines are in the rack doesn’t it?

    B.Tolputt looks at the thread title to make sure everyone gets the joke… 😛

  21. Just on an aside – the bf and I were musing after watching a South Park episode that referred to Hooters – we wondered what the male equivalent should be. And I reckon it should be “GUTS”… then I could get a job… hehe

  22. Ben: it has to be Sexual Advice for the Uncertain…

  23. Thanks Min 🙂

    The advice in my column of said magazine would have to be:
    If you’re partner is commenting on carpet, ceiling, or the colour of your bedroom walls… you;re doing it wrong!

  24. Plus Ben..for the reader it poses somewhat embarrassing question when one suggests, carpet, ceiling or bedroom walls.

    Joni, the male equivalent of Hooters is still Hooters.

  25. I was once told that the more people talk about sex the less they do it! ..mmm… probably needs more research …

  26. Well I was merely observing the comments of others, and not making any comments myself in that respect, TB, if you’d care to notice…

    Oh, and a bloody well-deserved Monday *clink*

  27. Min,

    he male equivalent of Hooters is still Hooters

    I heard it was “Moobs” (derivative of man and boobs). The explanation probably unnecessary.

  28. Agreed Reb, you did indeed not give much away except for the following..it’s either/or..Quote:

    “oh, yeah…shag me….shag me…!”

    or

    “Honey, we really ought to fix the plaster work in the ceiling…”

    I suspect that the latter is from person experience while the former is from watching too many repeats of Austin Powers movies.

  29. i had an intimate moment some time ago and i suppose i cant complain about anything, i was alone.

  30. Hexx you’re never alone with Mrs Palmer…

  31. “clink”, cobber

    Shhh! No 3 but well deserved …

    I see the camel not only speaks he plays with h…. what am I doing …

  32. Adrian, a matelot’s best friend Mrs P and her five daughters, I hear …

  33. TB

    Shhh! No 3 but well deserved

    Does the “well deserved” have anything to do with the rest of the thread and the aforementioned research?

  34. You know it TB.

  35. Sheesh. I always thought I married the wrong hand…..Now I know!!!!!

  36. I wish, Dave, I wish …

  37. handyrab,

    From my observations it appears that males always marry the upper hand, we have no choice about it …

  38. Dave55,
    I married the one that’s always in my pocket. Anyone for billiards?

  39. Reb, if you didn’t try any King George Whiting while at Glenelg then I strongly insist that you head straight back to Adelaide.

    Going to SA without trying this delicious fish is like going to Tasmania and not eating an apple.

    And where are my Fruchocs?

    Purchased a bottle of Coriole Shiraz to enjoy with dinner and Saturday night but I made the mistake of giving Jedda a taste.

    And then I said goodbye to half the bottle.

  40. Ross Gittins, on Rudd’s 6000 word ‘diatribe’:

    Rudd quotes the International Monetary Fund’s praise for our medium-term fiscal strategy, but fails to acknowledge that it was formulated by, and inherited from, his predecessors.

    He fails to admit that the relatively low and unconcerning levels of public debt in prospect are the product of his predecessors’ budget surpluses and zero net debt.

    The Libs also deserve credit for the good shape our banks are in. It was they who reformed our prudential supervision system, putting it in the hands of a single, well-armed regulator, and they who persisted with the Four Pillars policy that did so much to keep our banks out of trouble.

    The notion that the Libs could be fairly described as “neo-liberal free-market fundamentalists” is laughable.

    And yet Rudd boasts about the success of the Hawke-Keating governments’ micro-economic reforms and promises more reforms of his own. Micro-economic reform and neo-liberal mean the same thing. As an ideological warrior, this guy’s a phoney.

  41. He’s a phoney & a gimp but he’s waaaay better than what the other lot want to dish up as an alternative.

    Most people (I doubt too many read political blogs) aren’t even paying attention to his gimping around & probably won’t until he gets to be as arrogant & inyourface annoying as Howard; that looks decades away at the moment.

  42. Absolutely agree toiletboss – Support for Turnbull is down to 16% as preferred PM according to latest Newspoll:

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25845951-5007133,00.html

    Same level as Nelson when he was booted.

  43. You guys could be right: Rudd may be “waaaay better than” any alternative on offer. He and his government might also be doing better than Howard and his government ever did (but that’s a matter of opinion). Or could it be that they’re just doing different wrong things to the previous government, but wrong things nevertheless?

    Is it good enough to give Rudd and Co a pass merely because they are ‘better than the other mob’, no matter how marginal that ‘superiority’ might be? Don’t we actually have the right – no, responsibility – to level criticism where it’s due, and not continually look back and congratulate ourselves on how smart we were at the last election? It’s hard to move forward when you’re looking behind you.

  44. Hexx you’re never alone with Mrs Palmer…

    …but he will go blind!

    I see the camel not only speaks he plays with h….

    …his dromedary ding-a-ling

    tony

    It’s hard to move forward when you’re looking behind you.

    Moving forward…a conservative govt? That was the problem, we went back to the 1950’s!

  45. Kittylitter,

    I’m looking at you.

  46. Interesting article by Gittins.It should also be mentioned that it was Labor that deregulated the banking industry and privatised the Commonwealth Bank.

    Furhermore Labor used the money they got from the bank sale to pay for recurrent expenses. They did not use the money to pay off debt. It was used to make Keatings budget deficits look smaller.

  47. “It’s hard to move forward when you’re looking behind you.”

    I couldn’t disagree more.

    In order to remind ourselves how far we’ve progressed, it’s worthwhile looking back (and we’re onlt talking 18 months), to recall how bad things had actually become.

    It’s easy to forget how heinous the Howard government had become – AWB, Children Overboard, WorkChoices, WMD, sucking up to George Bush, the millions upon millions of dollars wasted on advertising purely directed at re-electing the rodent and his motley rat-pack, Fridge Magnets, be alert but not alarmed, the appeals to rascism, the influence of the exclusive brethren and other religious nut job groups like Hillsong.

    While Rudd, might have his ‘peculiarities,’ he is infinitely better than Howard, and by all accounts has so far operated fairly openly and transparantly with the Australian people compared to the lies and duplicitous conduct of Howard and his mob.

  48. Migs,

    Whiting wasn’t on the menu at Glenelg, unfortunately.

    Your fruchocs are in the post. I’m sending them in the same box that you used to send me the case of Coriole Shiraz..

  49. It’s easy to forget how heinous the Howard government had become – AWB, “YAWN” Children Overboard,”YAWN” WorkChoices,”YAWN” WMD,”YAWN” sucking up to George Bush,”YAWN” etc.

    You are making me sleepy.

  50. reb,

    It’s easy to forget how heinous the Howard government had become – AWB, Children Overboard, WorkChoices, WMD, sucking up to George Bush, the millions upon millions of dollars wasted on advertising purely directed at re-electing the rodent and his motley rat-pack, Fridge Magnets, be alert but not alarmed, the appeals to rascism, the influence of the exclusive brethren and other religious nut job groups like Hillsong.

    For the sake of the argument, let us assume every word of that is incontrovertible truth. Then what?

    When will you start asking this government some hard questions without excusing them on the basis that you prefer them to the previous government? For example, when will you start asking them about the broadband network that was supposed to have started in Tasmania, and you should have had by now?

  51. Kittylitter,

    I’m looking at you.

    hehe

    I’m always looking forward tony, as TB says depends if you want to live in a society or an economy. Which is why I can’t stand conservative governments in power. They want to mind everyone elses morals and sexual activity yet the military, security and big business have carte blanche to ride roughshod over all the good citizens and consumers. I also agree with reb re how divisive Howard’s ‘vision’ was, he fed on people’s hatreds and prejudices, rather than inspiring them to be better people. Lest we forget (am i allowed to say that outside of ANZAC Day?).

  52. I was in Adelaide on the weekend too, reb. #2 son went to the anime convention at the convention centre and as he still isn’t too confident about driving in the city solo, I have to chaperone do the driving, if we’re in a hurry, or supervise.

    Glad you enjoyed your short sojourn in Adelaide. Were you staying on South Terrace, which explains the shadow? The city actually faces west; which is where all the beaches are, including Glenelg.

    The daughter and I had lunch at the Largs Pier on Saturday and then went for stroll down the jetty where a few brave souls were having a crack at whatever fish may have been foolish enough to be lurking.

    It should have been raining according to the weatherman, but was pretty much sunshine and lollipops all weekend, so much so that I left the overcoat in the car.

    I’ve been brought back to reality in the sunny south-east where gentle sea breezes are all the rage and the frogs are in full throat. Our small holding has ducks in the moat for the first time and as I said, the frogs are working overtime.

    There’s a lot of water lying on the ground, our tanks are overflowing and the wombat has vacated his summer residence in a very desirable cutting grass neighbourhood, for his/her winter residence on higher ground. I wonder if our wombat is a WCP?

  53. They want to mind everyone elses morals and sexual activity

    I agree that governments have no place interfering in peoples private lives, let alone their bedrooms, however I don’t see this government in general, or the puritanical Prime Minister in particular, behaving any differently.

  54. When will you start asking this government some hard questions without excusing them on the basis that you prefer them to the previous government?

    When we have an Opposition that asks the hard questions and doesn’t seek power through character assassination rather than policy.

    Give us time, we’re still enjoying the little ray of rudd sunshine that came to brighten our dark and gloomy days of Howard!

    Denticare, hospitals, medicare etc Ruddy’s starting to look like another great Labor reformer isn’t he? Will he be up there with Whitlam and Keating? Gooo Ruddy!

  55. Weird. Strike through went crazy. Did I forget something?

    Help, Kahmal!!!

  56. Kitty,

    Denticare, hospitals, medicare etc Ruddy’s starting to look like another great Labor reformer isn’t he? Will he be up there with Whitlam and Keating?

    When any of these grand announcenments ‘visions’ becomes a reality, I’ll give praise where I think it’s deserved. In the meantime you’ll excuse me if I remain extremely cynical.

  57. Jane – fixed the strikethrough editing

  58. Joni,

    Shouldn’t you be at the salt mines Joomla desk?

  59. “When any of these grand announcenments ‘visions’ becomes a reality, I’ll give praise where I think it’s deserved”

    Yes this was my first thought also. Rudd only has to snease or cough and the leftoids start acting like giggling schoolgirls.

    I to will congratulate Rudd when he actually achieves something. So far he has Fuelwatch, Grocerychoice as his achievements

  60. Tony, on July 28th, 2009 at 9:57 am Said:

    “….For example, when will you start asking them about the broadband network that was supposed to have started in Tasmania, and you should have had by now?”

    Tony, there was a report on the ABC? news on the weekend about the broadband rollout in Tassie and I think it may have started. Anyone else see it?

    Obviously, our resident WCP wouldn’t have because he was too busy scoffing local delicacies and gargling fine wines in flash nosheries in Adelaide on his well-deserved R&R. Baron reb should now be referred to as a Refreshed WCP!

  61. Jane,

    We stayed at the Hyatt Regency (of course) – next to the Convention Centre.

    An anime convention? That explains all the kids who were walking passed the hotel dressed as Pacman.

    We probably strolled past each other at Glenelg on Saturday. We walked half way along the pier before retreating to the comparative sanctuary of this Italian restaurant called The Eurpoa Bar.

    And yes, the weather was really good, despite what the forecast said.

  62. Yes, the NBN rollout has already started in Tasmania.

  63. Jane,

    Tony, there was a report on the ABC? news on the weekend about the broadband rollout in Tassie and I think it may have started. Anyone else see it?

    I did, and it amounted to another announcement: announcing the calling for tenders, in this case.

  64. “Baron reb should now be referred to as a Refreshed WCP!”

    Oh, there’s no need to stand on ceremony.

    Just ‘sir’ will do…

  65. AM:

    There was much fanfare in April when the Federal Government announced it would begin its rollout of the National Broadband Network in Tasmania

    The rollout was supposed to start by the end of this month.

    But in an embarrassing delay the new high speed cable won’t be connected to Tasmanian homes until next year. . . .

    GUY BARNETT: They promised Tasmanians and Australians the rollout from July this year, this month. That is not going to start until April next year. What they have announced today is a tender process. A tender process and that’s it.

  66. Looking forward, looking back, Australians generally are good at looking back, look at how important anniversaries are.
    Perhaps it is a function of our supposed prosperity. Asian countries with their far greater cultural heritage aren’t as orientated as we are at celebrating past events. It’s not that they don’t appreciate past victories or failures or losses, it’s just that their circumstances means they don’t have the luxury we do of being able to afford wasting time and energy on reliving the past.
    If you are not moving ahead, then you are going backwards is a saying I often heard there.

  67. reb, I didn’t make Glenelg, but had I known you and Victor were staying at the Hyatt, I would have waved as I tottered past it when I dropped #2 off Saturday and Sunday.

  68. Tony,

    There are some businesses and residences already connected to the new network in Hobart.

    But then again, I just live here…

  69. reb, on July 28th, 2009 at 10:25 am Said:

    “Baron reb should now be referred to as a Refreshed WCP!”

    Oh, there’s no need to stand on ceremony.

    Just ’sir’ will do…”

    Sorry, sir. Pulls forelock.

  70. Sir or cur?

  71. And I need a joomla rest – but it is looking OK, what does everyone think of the new home?

  72. reb,

    Naturally I defer to your superior local knowledge, but until receiving you insight I could only go by what this IT specialist told teh ABC:

    FELICITY OGILVIE: Yet Hobart based IT worker Andrew Connor begs to differ.

    He says all that’s happened is that existing cable has been transferred to the National Broadband Network.

    ANDREW CONNOR: Tasmanians are still in limbo with their fast broadband access when it comes to the NBN. At the moment there is only ADSL One in many places and ASDL Two from other providers in just a couple of exchanges.

    FELICITY OGILVIE: Mr Connor runs the consumer lobby group Digital Tasmania.

    He says the Government is behind on its rollout schedule, as he says in the IT world a rollout means connecting the Internet to people’s homes.

    ANDREW CONNOR: People would still expect a rollout to be cables rolling down their streets with trucks, guys in cherry pickers or people digging up the nature strip to put those fibre optic cables into their home.

    TONY EASTLEY: IT worker Andrew Connor ending that report from Felicity Ogilvie.

  73. Here’s Michael Stutchbury, who seems to be on the same page as Gittins:

    Yet Rudd’s rhetorical impulses and perhaps even his core beliefs prevent him from adopting a leadership push around the simple idea that the pro-market reforms of the past 25 years have proven their worth during the crisis and now should be deepened and extended. What’s wrong with just saying and acting on that?

  74. Opposition pissing off women voters again along with with the previous surveys on them alienating younger voters (and young people as a whole) and then Tony Abbott on The 7:30 Report saying that WorkChoices MkII will win them the next election, then the predicted lower figure of 20 seats lost to the Coalition if a DD election were held in March seems to be based in reality.

    Tony
    I wish you were was harsh and critical of the previous government as you are of this one, and you had 11½ years not just 18 months worth of lies, deceits, broken promises, scaremongering, waste, neglect etc., yet it seems you held it all back for a Labor government. I also wish you held the previous government to the same higher standards you expect of this government, where it appears they must do everything instantly and perfectly otherwise you are not happy.

  75. “you had 11½ years not just 18 months worth of lies, deceits, broken promises, scaremongering, waste, neglect etc.”

    Sounds like a standard leftoid comment on Tim Dunlops blog

  76. it appears they must do everything instantly and perfectly otherwise you are not happy

    Not really, Mobius. In fact, if you search through these threads, you’ll be hard-pressed to find much I’ve written that’s been critical of the Rudd government per se. I’ve been very patiently waiting for them to perform, and have left it to others to criticize. But now, for me, it’s time for them to quit the incessant spin and start walking the walk.

  77. I wasn’t too much impressed with Glenelg to be honest. I much preferred Henley Beach and Grange.

  78. Tony,

    yes, work has officially begun albeit delayed from the original time-frame:

    WORK has officially begun on the Federal Government’s ambitious $43 billion national broadband network, starting in Tasmania…The project will be run by a company called TNBN formed as a joint venture between the Federal Government’s NBN company and Aurora Energy.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25794920-5014239,00.html

    This is happening in my street as I type:

    cables rolling down their streets with trucks, guys in cherry pickers or people digging up the nature strip to put those fibre optic cables into their home

  79. From the link to possum that you provided mobius.

    This again hooks in to female voters becoming problematic for the Coalition, with Labor’s position again being aligned with a large majority of female opinion.

    …and guess who pays the household bills?

    Another thing that the very expert numbers/graphs man possum has cleared up for me is what i heard on TV news this am about a change in public support for an ETS – majority thought we should wait til the other nations acted (more in line with Turnbull).

    But possum points out:

    …Yet, some rather confused folks are making direct comparisons between today’s question and a question which was asked back in September 2008, a question where the available responses were completely different:

    Back in September, Newspoll asked:

    …Thinking now about the Federal Government’s commitment to introduce the CPRA by 2010.Which one of the following comes closest to your view?

    The total proportion of the population that believes Australia should introduce a CPRS has gone from 88% in September 2008 to 86% today – not a significant change. The difference is in the composition of that support, where the September question provided an entirely different set of available responses than did today’s question – a set of responses which are simply not comparable.

    September asks about the question of if we should introduce a CPRS, today’s question asks about when. If you see anything, anywhere today that attempts to compare the responses from the two periods on this particular question – it’s a crime against statistics. Well, actually it’s just flat out comprehension failure

  80. Shock, Horror! Hobart based IT worker Andrew Connor wouldn’t have his own axe to grind or barrow to push in spite of the facts, would he? Surely, it appears on the intertubes or the telly, so it must be true 🙄

  81. This is happening in my street as I type:

    Good to hear, RN; let us know how it runs (free of Conroy-filters,one hopes).

  82. Joni

    And I need a joomla rest – but it is looking OK, what does everyone think of the new home?

    Answer: supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

  83. RN,

    Have you checked what kind of cables are rolling down your street? I’ve just been doing some further digging and it appears the tender to supply the optic-fibre cable doesn’t close until the 14th of August.

  84. Tony,

    just asked the guys what they were up to this morning as I was driving by- their answer was NBN cable work -They are Aurora Energy technicians.

  85. Good enough, RN (might be preparation).

  86. Having read your link Tony, that was my first thought as well. Can hardly wait! The top half of the street is crawling with workman who were not present yesterday.

  87. Hehe RN I think that we all will have to think twice about giving cheek (so to speak) when you have this gravatar….

  88. “The top half of the street is crawling with workman who were not present yesterday.”
    RN

    This must mean you live in an ALP electorate or a marginal liberal electorate

  89. Neil of Sydney, on July 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    You could always vote Labor next time, Neil, the majority of Australia will … 😉

  90. Neil,

    Yaaawwn!

    All 5 Tasmanian electorates are held by the ALP (Federally speaking).

  91. I won’t be voting Labor, won’t be voting for the Coalition or The Greens either!

  92. The following link explains where the NBN is currently at (progress & location):

    http://www.alp.org.au/media/0709/mspm251.php

  93. Your fruchocs are in the post. I’m sending them in the same box that you used to send me the case of Coriole Shiraz..

    Well, well reb. Is that an admission that you did receive the Coriole Shiraz?

  94. Well, it is time for me to eat humble pie.

    The so called scandal that I referred to a while back turned out to be bullshit fed to me by a low level lawyer that was a name dropper that stuffed up because one of the names I know well who never heard of this person!

    I contacted a journalist at The Australian and he checked it out and there was no evidence of any wrong doing by the previous or this government.

    I was well and truly sucked in by this lawyer.

  95. For what it’s worth”:

    I wish to mark this unchallenged assertion as the point in time where I converted from an impassive observer to an actively critical observer of the Rudd Labor Government.

  96. This was the original broadband promise

    From 1.09 – you know they ridiculed our proposal ……… guess what they’ve shut up
    It was only going to cost $4.7B

  97. There absolutely should be fierce scrutiny of Rudd Labor, or any other government.

    The terribly fractured, misdirected & blindly contrarian Opposition (noted to be shambolic by yourself ToSY) is worse though & have a long way to go before they can be considered a realistic alternative. True conservatives can thank John Howard for that.

    In the meantime Rudd Labor will be largely unaccountable & a distraction for most people. The LibNats having painted themselves into a corner is not very useful for effective, balanced governance.

  98. Tboss, just saw the side of the Lodge.
    The House looks like a bunker, solid as. How old did you say the place was?

    Is that you mowing the lawn? lol

  99. lol Kitty, only just saw that.

  100. Spy satellite images Bush refused to declassify but Obama did within a short time of being asked.

    Declassified Ice Loss Images

  101. Thanks for that, Mobius. Those pictures provide further proof, if any were needed, of what the President of The Royal Society was alluding to in this announcement:

    “It will without doubt have come to your Lordship’s knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated.

    (This) affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations.”

    One small – inconvenient – detail about that statement, though: It was made on the 20th of November, 1817.

  102. You still don’t get it Tony and what the pictures show.

    Forever determined to be an ostrich until your arse burns off.

    If they are just showing natural cyclical events why did the Bush administration refuse to declassify the information and what else is still classified?

    You do know that the CIA has planned for contingencies because of Global Warming impacts on the instability of regions around the planet? Why would an intelligence agency under an administration that didn’t believe in global warming make contingency plans for global warming?

  103. That’s hilarious, Adrian. The CIA is now an authority on global warming? 😆

  104. New poll up at the new house for the order that comments should appear.

  105. We’ve had the wedding. Why doesn’t our marriage count?

    The comments are interesting but mostly the same old stuff from both sides that is trotted out whenever this subject is raised.

    Sparta would love some of the posters there.

  106. Rugby League player changes codes, grows neck.

  107. Ecko

    Funny you should mention gay marriage as we are off to the Same Sex Marriage rally this weekend in Sydney – marching from Town Hall to the ALP conference in Darling harbour. In fact, I have just ordered the bespoke t-shirts that the bf has designed for the protest (with a plug for blogocrats.com too! hehe)

  108. Joni attending a rally?

    Who would’ve thought……

  109. Well what else do I do with my free time? Joomla had me up until 1am last night.

  110. Who’s joomla?

  111. you filthy filthy man!

  112. Tony, on July 29th, 2009 at 11:21 am Said:

    How do you think he’ll go Tony? He’s quite an athlete, having played Rugby at Schoolboys level and Rugby League at international level, but AFL is a vastly different game.

  113. Bacchus,

    Hunt looks like a natural athlete, so it should just be a matter of learning the rules and how the game is played. The NRL player who I think was born to play AFL, though, is Israel Folau. I watched him a lot when he was at the Storm and he can take a high mark as well anyone.

  114. “Is that you mowing the lawn?”Hexxx

    Yep, that’s me alright.

  115. Will Hunt’s cauliflowers turn back into ears now too?

  116. Yes, I wondered whether Folau (and the Storm generally) were getting specialist coaching from an AFL source. Greg Inglis and Billy Slater aren’t too bad under a high ball either.

  117. A brave move to change codes.

    Strong rumours abound that the Gold Coast are out to poach Kurt Tippet also, one of the Crows most promising youngsters; he’s a local they’re hoping to tempt home. Bastards!

  118. Yes, bacchus, there has been regular cross-coaching between the Storm and Melbourne-based AFL clubs. The Storm players are sought-after as tackling coaches, but there have been combined team training sessions as well.

  119. Nah – you’re thinking of Rugby tb – Rugby League doesn’t have real scrums (that’s where cauliflower ears are made) and Hunt is a back anyway. The same with Tony’s neck comment – really only applies to Rugby (Union) forwards, and once again because of the real scrums..

  120. I’ll be the first to admit I’m a rugby philistine.

    Can’t really understand why it’s even called football given the rarity of the ball touching a foot.

    Union does look like the gutsier version from my untrained eyes though, brutal.

  121. Here’s Nathan Buckley teaching the Storm how to kick.

  122. And just to let you know that I was a rugby forward – a front rower or hooker to be exact.

    (joni now prepares for “now it all makes sense” abuse)

  123. And do you have a neck?

  124. Craig Bellamy enlisted Danny Frawley to help stop Folau in the SOO.

  125. You’d be a somewhat larger gentleman than I expected then joni – how’s the ears? and the neck? 😀

  126. My brother takes the piss out me for having no neck, but he was a wimpy back.

    My ears are fine (no cauliflowering), but the back is not good. But not because of rugby, but because of subsequent medical issues.

    I suppose I took the NSW Rugby motto from the 1980’s too far: Play rugby and feel a man….

    hehe

  127. Why is this worthless piece of dogsh*t still on the f**king air??

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/enetertainment/articles/2009/07/29/1248546762075.html

    And why is the SMH making the damn thing available to listen to??

    AND IT’S FILED IN THE “ENTERTAINMENT” SECTION???!!!!!!!!

    Jesus Christ.

  128. My thoughts exactly Ross.

  129. And I did not listen to the recording.

    Honestly, some days you’re happily working away and then you read something like this and all you want to do is bash a wall.

  130. I just skimmed the article – we just do not need to hear the call.

  131. BTW – have you been for a look at our new home?

    blogocrats.com

    Be moving over there soon.

  132. Wow, Joni. That looks impressively high-tech.

    I had a look a couple weeks ago when it was still just a template.

    Good work. You should shout yourself a few days off when it’s all done.

  133. I think we should give him a pay raise. Whoever’s in charge – double what he’s getting now!

  134. A pay rise?

    What are you, a union boss?

  135. The reaction to Rudd’s “essays” is fascinating. On the one hand we purport to loathe 10 second sound bites and sloganeeering. Yet lengthy discourse is ridiculed as boring or irrelevant. Contrary to popular opinion Gough Whitlam often made long didactic expositions rather than fiery or witty speeches.

    I must get around to reading KR.

  136. Why is this worthless piece of dogsh*t still on the f**king air??

    Both of them IMO, there oughtta be a law against it!
    Imagine if it was the ABC. I just can’t understand what kind of mother would do that to her child, do they get paid for it?

  137. Oops sorry about the singular/plural thing.

    I just can’t understand what kind of mother (or any parent) would do that to her child, do they would she get paid for it?

  138. joni, on July 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm Said:

    “And just to let you know that I was a rugby forward – a front rower or hooker to be exact”

    Well that answers the “giver or receiver” question I guess……

  139. Kevin Rennie, on July 29th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    It’s the normal bash Kevin no matter what he does or how he does it. If he morphed into Howard and did and said things exactly as Howard did, the same people who were Howard Huggers would be bashing Rudd.

    It’s not what he does or how bad or good it is, it’s only the fact it’s Rudd and Labor in power, which somehow means they deserve to be lambasted because they aren’t conservatives. Stupid thing is that Rudd is probably more conservative than half the Liberals.

    Second stupid thing is that most of the Australian people don’t give a shit about the conservative Rudd bashing that goes on, they see it for what it is, ideological born to rule garbage, and these people will vote accordingly, which means as things stand the conservatives could lose 20 or more seats at the next election.

    Labor learnt that Howard bashing at the height of his popularity was a dead end. The opposition and their media mouthpieces have yet to learn the same lesson.

  140. What do people think about Ross Gittins comments to Rudds essay??

    http://business.theage.com.au/business/tough-talking-pm-is-all-spin-20090726-dxgo.html?page=-1

    “He fails to admit that the relatively low and unconcerning levels of public debt in prospect are the product of his predecessors’ budget surpluses and zero net debt.

    The Libs also deserve credit for the good shape our banks are in. It was they who reformed our prudential supervision system, putting it in the hands of a single, well-armed regulator, and they who persisted with the Four Pillars policy that did so much to keep our banks out of trouble.

    The notion that the Libs could be fairly described as “neo-liberal free-market fundamentalists” is laughable.”

  141. Rewriting history Neil.

    For a start Costello implemented a Keating policy idea on the banks and more or less just signed off on on a obligation letter for that regulation.

    Government revenue in the last two years of the Howard government was $315 billion dollars. Project Government revenue in the first two years of the Rudd government fell $250 billion.

    As has been pointed out to you time and time again as you go on about Labor debt time and time again, the Howard government did very little to get that windfall revenue and more or less fell into good prosperity through luck, not good fiscal management. His government also neglected great swaths of necessary expenditure lumping it on some future government just so he could boast about massive surpluses and spend big on tax payer funded party political advertising. Rudd almost immediately identified that 11½ years of neglect and spent big on it. Yes it puts us into debt and there is going to be cuts down the track to pay for that, that fact has not been hidden by this government as Howard hid most things, but what Rudd is doing doesn’t leave the crumbling infrastructure for some future government to fix at even greater cost.

    What’s your answer to fixing the infrastructure Neil, how would you raise the money to do it, or would you allow it to deteriorate another decade or more so you could criticise Labor governments for not looking after infrastructure?

    As books, papers and documentaries on the Howard government are increasingly showing, his was not a government of good monetary management but one of waste and neglect.

  142. Neil, I agree with Gittens’ take on the PM and his manifesto.

    The PM has never had an original thought and is prone to take credit for the last government’s efforts.

    I find it quite fascinating that the commentor above you displays so much hate for the Coalition yet voted for them at the last election…obviously conviction is not one of his characteristics!

  143. Back to your crossaints James 😛

  144. Joni, wouldn’t it be night time in Paris?

    I wonder if he has sampled escargot?

  145. Good point scaper – I can just see him, terry-towling hat wandering down the left bank with a baguette on his shoulder – our very own le blogocrate… hehe

    And I heard a great comment on ABC 702 this morning, if the Chaser was off air for two weeks because of their “bad taste” stunt, then Kyle and Jackie O should get at least a month.

  146. I wonder if they sell terry toweling berets?

  147. What, as compared to your conviction scaper?

    I have told you several times, but as usual I might as well have told a brick wall, I vote on local members no matter what their party. I did not vote for the Coalition, I voted for Joanna Gash. I did not vote for Peter Reith when I lived in Victoria yet I voted for my local Liberal State member twice, and then Labor the third time before moving to NSW. I have voted Democrats and if I lived 200km south in Eden-Monaro I would vote for Mike Kelly.

    Is that concept too hard for you to grasp, and here you are saying that you are not an ideologue at all, yet that is how you judge and pigeon hole others, as ideologues because they rightly criticise a bereft government or praise another fixing the neglects of a previous one.

    For your info. I believe there is a lot wrong with Rudd as a person and with his government, but there is also more that is right. What I am railing against is this constant Rudd bashing over anything, everything and nothing. He cannot win no matter what he does, yet real failings of policy (and it is policy that should be scrutinised, not what Rudd writes and says or doesn’t write or say) are getting scant criticism or scrutiny.

    That is a huge failing of the opposition, their mouthpieces and those attacking the government, who seem determined to somehow bring Rudd down on trivialities and meaningless drivel.

  148. Let me see…you accused me of lying about being told to f**k off under my rock at Pure Poison that Toiletboss confirmed was the case.

    Then you alleged that Bolt was informed by the owners of Pure Poison of their intentions, I countered that it was not the case as I informed Bolt and have furnished evidence and you called me a liar!

    You have accused the former PM of being responsible for the Bottom of the Harbour Scheme which was slander and I was sent a link and posted it that proved your allegation false.

    You even went as far to say that my statement that solar does not work when there is no sun (dark) and that wind turbines don’t work when there is no wind, was false.

    You voted conservative then defend the PM who I believe is all spin and no substance.

    I don’t support any registered political party…yet, but I did vote Labor at the last election and I will criticise the PM when I believe it is warranted and his essays are worthy of such!

  149. Enough with the comments about people lying please scaper.

  150. Perhaps all those getting their panties in a bunch over Kyle and Jackie O’s radio stunt should take a deep breath. There is a whole genre of TV and radio programs based around these kinds of ‘trailer-trash-reveals-all’ sessions, The Jerry Springer Show being the ‘leading’ example.

    Of course, these shows are of questionable taste, and one really wonders about the mental prowess of their audiences, but the inconvenient fact is: there’s a market for this kind of thing.

    As to whether those placing themselves in such situations by appearing on these shows can truly be called victims – I think not. They would all be appearing of their own free-will; they would be required to sign waivers acknowledging the inherent risks and idemnifying the program of any future claims; and last, but not least, they are almost certainly being paid to make public spectacles of themselves.

  151. Tony – I agree – but in this case one of the participants was a minor who protested going on air.

  152. In which case it is the mother who should be criticised, if anyone, as she would have been required to give parental consent.

  153. Joni, fair enough…I suppose I better get packing for my snow holiday.

    Let me see…one hundred litres of LSD to put into the Canberra water supply…check!

    No need to put any in the Nowra water supply!

  154. Oh indeed. I agree. But isn’t this worse than the Chaser?

  155. You won’t find any comment from me criticising the Chaser stunt, either. That was a huge overreaction to a joke that didn’t work.

  156. And I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume Kittylitter was joking when she said:

    Both of them IMO, there oughtta be a law against it!

    (It couldn’t be an indication of some kind of pattern where ‘progressives’, whenever they detect some perceived injustice or other, instinctively react by calling for more power to the state, so the government can solve their problems for them. Could it? 😉 )

  157. 10-4 Tony. Understand.

  158. I believe that the point is that Sandilands and Jackie O knew that they were going to be interviewing a minor about her ‘sex life’ and that she was going to be intimidated and bullied into ‘telling the truth’ via being strapped/plugged into a lie detector.

    The mother clearly has some responsibility having coerced or used other tactics to get her daughter onto the program, as per the girl’s statement ‘I don’t want to do this..I’m scared’. However, this statement likewise didn’t stop Sandlilands and co-workers from proceeding.

  159. scaper…, on July 30th, 2009 at 9:08 am
    scaper…, on July 30th, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Still playing the man, not the ball, I see, scaper …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … as for the Sandilands nonsense – pleading he had to get them off air ’cause he knew he had a problem is just plain BS – radio stations are obliged by law to delay broadcasts by at least 30 seconds – plenty of time to find a couple of records or organise a traffic or news break … and get them off air …

    …sensationalism by any other name … anything to create “news” …

    … there is very little spontaneity on radio, or TV, these days – God forbid it was with these turkeys running the show…

    … I’m not religious at all but the story of Sodom and Gomorrah often pops into my mind these days …

  160. While I agree that the lie detector schtick is in appalling taste, imo the mother, who knew her daughter had been raped, should have her arse kicked up and down every main street in the country for setting her kid up on this program.

    The woman must have known how distressing it would be for her daughter to be subjected to the stunt, but obviously didn’t give a shit!!! She is supposed to protect her daughter, not exploit her in the way she has!

    For God’s sake, this girl was raped at 12 and the woman hasn’t made any attempt to get her counselling in the last 2 years!!!!!!

    And the silly bitch is surprised that her daughter’s behaviour is out of control and reckons the best way to deal with it is to stick the kid on that segment of a shock-jock radio show well known for ott stunts!

    The comment from the male host, while very insensitive and inappropriate, reminds me of a terrible foot-in-mouth by a well known stand-up.

    He was doing a routine about sharks and noticed a man and woman in the front row who were visibly upset. On asking the reason, they told him their young son had been taken by a shark.

    Without engaging his brain, he said that maybe the shark had taken the boy to somewhere really nice, like Hawaii!! He still feels enormous guilt over the episode, but it was the first thing that popped into his head and he just blurted it out.

    If I hadn’t heard this, I would be castigating the male host, but I imagine it was the first thing that came into his head and fell out of his mouth.

    Certainly, he was wrong to say what he did, but I’ll make any sort of bet that it was the last thing he would have expected to hear and it’s something he’ll regret every day.

    As far as I’m concerned, the blame should be laid at the mother’s feet. And as far as I’m concerned, she’s not a mother’s bootlace!

  161. Therefore TB, it was a deliberate intimidation and bullying of a 14yr old girl.

  162. TB, I reserve the right to retaliate when someone has a go at me…you included!

    I see you stuck up for poor Adrian when I said I was starting to believe he was a fool for saying that solar and wind does work when there is no sun or wind so I take it you agree with his statement.

    How much power does your solar panels generate in the dark?

    I also take note that you disagreed with my comment concerning policy formulation the other day with a dismissive ‘BULLSHIT’ which infers playing the man, I formulate my opinion on what I either know or observe…maybe you should come down from your high horse and accept the fact that because someone holds an alternative opinion it is not bullshit.

    You are not perfect!

  163. Funny how the solar plant in Spain still works at night after the sun has gone down.

  164. Yes TB is 🙂

  165. “You are not perfect!”

    I am.

  166. While I’m in rant mode and referring to what Mobius Ecko, said on July 30th, 2009 at 9:05 am, there is a column by Christian Kerr in today’s OO, slating Rudd for waving at nobody when he boards a plane, accompanied by a photo, which was obviously taken by an invisible photographer.

    I’m surprised he didn’t top it off by getting stuck into Rudd for obligingly waving to the invisible photographer.

  167. Me too and so is my bf.

  168. Agreed Jane, the photographer was clearly a possession of the Cloke of Invisibility. From Wik re HP:

    According to the legend, the Cloak of Invisibility has the power to shield the wearer from being seen by Death. It is a true invisibility cloak, in the sense of being able to completely shield the wearer from sight, and cannot be worn out by time or spells.

    Obviously worn to shield the photographer from hairdryers and earwax.

  169. scaper…, on July 30th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    scaper carried around litres of LSD, explains everything.

    Also telling he chose LSD, a mostly defunct drug of a past decade.

    Solar loses efficiency when there is no sunlight and wind turbines only work in a narrow band of wind speed. But it appears you deliberately overlooked the point being made as is your normal want when you are shown up, like in quoting bogus lists.

  170. Yeah, you are all perfect…case studies, lol!

  171. Min, it’s a pity Christian Kerr hasn’t been given a Cone of Silence. lol

  172. “scaper carried around litres of LSD, explains everything.

    Also telling he chose LSD, a mostly defunct drug of a past decade.”

    Is that the best you can do, Adrian?

    Tell me more about LSD as you seem to be an expert at that too!

  173. Rio nightmare as young backpackers accused of scam

    The British consulate in Rio said it had been informed of the matter.

    “We are aware of the case and are providing consular assistance,” a spokesman said, adding that officials had made one visit to the women in jail.

    What? No cries for the Prime Minister to call the President of Argentina directly?

  174. What? No cries for the Prime Minister to call the President of Argentina directly?

    Dave, you’ve been out for “lunch” today, haven’t you?

  175. Dave55, on July 30th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Law students GRADUATES!

    …deeper and deeper into the mire our society slips …

    … one would hope that these 23 year olds, who certainly should know better, will find the Bar raised much higher or removed completely …

  176. From internet filtering to their stance against gay marriage, you think surely this government can not do worse than the previous one, then it does.

    McClelland defends new anti-terrorism laws

    I stated going back to the very first draconian anti-terrorist law Howard implemented in the wake of September 11 2001 attacks on the US that he had opened a can of worms that won’t ever be wound back and would be exploited by governments of all sides and all levels.

    From Labor State governments to the current Labor Federal government I’m sad to say my prediction has come to past. And the next conservative government in power will take this even further, expanding the groups that will come under the laws and increasing the punitive actions whilst abrogating more human rights. Nothing is more absolute.

  177. And the next conservative government in power will take this even further, expanding the groups that will come under the laws and increasing the punitive actions whilst abrogating more human rights. Nothing is more absolute.

    Even in a comment purporting to be critical of Rudd Labor, Adrian’s natural instincts kick in and see him criticising the deeds of an imaginary future conservative government; deeds sure to be worse – his ideology tells him – than anything any Labor government could possibly contemplate.

    Give me a f**king break.

  178. Of course, these shows are of questionable taste, and one really wonders about the mental prowess of their audiences, but the inconvenient fact is: there’s a market for this kind of thing.

    Oh well, as long as there’s a market, let’s traumatise children! These people are supposed to be responsible adults, and while I’m about it, here’s the ACMA form to make a complaint.

    via larvatus prodeo:

    Lodge a complaint by downloading this form, printing and faxing off.
    Reference the commercial radio code of practice or here for this clause for “program content and language” regarding “sex and sexual behaviour”:

    1.5 (a) All program content must meet contemporary standards of decency, having regard to the likely characteristics of the audience of the licensee’s service.

    And I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume Kittylitter was joking when she said:

    Both of them IMO, there oughtta be a law against it!

    hehe, come in spinner! I must admit that I had you in mind when I said that. I was being deliberately provocative as I knew the classical liberal would choke on his morning coffee! Well spotted tony.

    As for the ‘apology’ from Sandilands, all I heard was hostile and defiant aggression, he really is an idiot.

  179. Tony, Tom’s obsession is unions, apparently my obsession is the ETS and obviously Adrian’s obsession/hatred is anything conservative to a point of derision of any future conservative that has not entered politics yet!

    Talk about the playing the imaginary man…LOL!

  180. Tony, on July 30th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    If you believe the Conservatives won’t increase the scope of the anti-terrorism legislation then you really do live in the ideologically shrouded haze it appears you do.

  181. “If you believe the Conservatives won’t increase the scope of the anti-terrorism legislation then you really do live in the ideologically shrouded haze it appears you do.”

    Conservative pollies seem to thrive on fear & creating common enemies. Look at Tony Blair & Morris Iemma…;)

    Tho I imagine they’d come across as “pussies” compared to the likes of an Abbott/Hockey government.

    Holding shares in security & weapons-based companies can be a prime motivator too.

    And wearing religious beliefs as an armband can be quite handy for the media & political-based opportunistic cowardly ego-maniac brandishing a “Homeland Security” truncheon & surveillance camera.

    Those who YELL loudly to distract the public from the backdoor theft by their mates, family, donors & PUPPET MASTERS.

    And the front door theft by way of government sanctioned wars/invasions. Think Iraq.

    N’

  182. Tony,

    I wasn’t out to lunch yesterday and have been swamped with work (hence fewer posts this week). I just saw that article and thought it was an interestingdistinction between reporting of a British incident and the reporting of the Hu affair back here. Lame attempt at humour I guess.

    TB, I know what you mean about them being law graduates – fortunately, Us Aussie law graduates are much more sensible and make sure we file our fake insurance claims more promptly and hide the ‘stolen’ goods somewhere other than our lockers. People make a big deal about Malcolm Turnbull’s big legal win in the Spycatcher case but one must remember he was only up against English trained lawyers 😉

  183. Speaking of “Malcolm”, I couldn’t let this go uncommented upon:

    Top 10 bad-boy names

    Alec, Ernest, Garland, Ivan, Kareem, Luke, Malcolm, Preston, Tyrell, Walter.

    Do we really want to risk our country being run by a “bad boy”

  184. What, Kevin’s not on the list? 😯

  185. Isn’t Kareem Arabic for Kevin?

    If that is the case then I agree!

  186. A healthcare proposal:

    the Federal govt uses local manufacturers to construct affordable treadmills (walking machines) for the chronically ill & ever-fighting w/ their weight public.

    Patients then have access to cheap rental machines provided by the Health Department in the safe surrounds of their HOME and are not forced to compete w/ cars, avoid muggers and mad dogs, nor inflict their daggy/dayglo walking/running attire on others.

    N’

  187. And yes Min. they should make available useful, affordable exercise machines for the mobility challenged too.

    🙂

    Perhaps they already do.

    N’

  188. Hubby would beat you in a fast jog to the pub Nas’ 😉

  189. Ahhh!

    There’s us Aussie lawyers and them “dumb” Pommie lawyers … Gawd knows what to call them Yank lawyers …

    Bit like the diggers, and Tommies and GI’s – no brainer … its not by chance the Yanks come and train here rather than in the UK …

    … if you’re gonna be good at something (anything) get an Aussie to show you how …

  190. A number of members of one of America’s largest scientific societies have written letters to their journal’s editor-in-chief following a climate-change article authored by him. The tone of those letters>/a> may surprise some readers.

  191. “Hubby would beat you in a fast jog to the pub Nas’”

    Depends how thirsty I am.

    🙂

    I came third in a 10 mile run once. The joy of youth. Running like the wind to get nowhere fast.

    N’

  192. “… if you’re gonna be good at something (anything) get an Aussie to show you how …”

    Haven’t they given you citizenship yet TB?…you do know Howard is gone?
    🙂

    N’…flagless

  193. Hehe Nas’…Run Forrest run..

    Hubby was always made wicked keeper at St Dominic’s. However, he does bowl both left handed and right handed. Just thinking of those nasty nuns (with due respect to the nice ones who I know from Apollo Bay). But punishment..take away a kid with polio’s calipers?

  194. Umm, not wicked keeper..typo..wicket keeper…although knowing hubby wicked keeper is good also.

  195. “Run Forrest run”

    lol…why does that bring an image of Peter Costello to mind?

    Now there’s a guy who got rooted. By the Rodent & his mob.

    N’

  196. Nooo Nas’. Forrest went places, got somewhere in spite of all odds. Costello went…nowhere.

  197. Interesting piece via Crikey at: http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2009/07/30/australians-well-trained-to-inaccurately-fear-boat-people/

    That due to the well trained PR machine of the former government that Australians believe (as an average) that 60% of asylum seekers arrive by boat.

    The true stats reveal that 96.6% of asylum seekers arrive by ‘plane, therefore only 3.4% of ‘illegals’ are boat people.

    A very good indication of how public opinion is maniplated by the media.

  198. Good link Min.

    I noticed Crikey has a decent music review blog w/ Tim Dunlop as well. They’re coming up in the world.

    After assiduously avoiding news reporting of any kind for a few mths (bliss) I’ve been searching out blogs and alternative news sources that don’t just repeat
    ad nauseam the BS thrown at us for yonks.

    BTW, what’s w/ Migs & Reb creating a new blog? What did I miss? Hopefully didn’t come out of an acrimonious discussion or twelve?

    N’

  199. “Forrest went places, got somewhere in spite of all odds. Costello went…nowhere.”

    Ya know Min., for all his faults I kinda like Peter Costello. And I still appreciate the opportunity under him as Treasurer to buy a house using the First Home Loan. One reason I was glad Labor continued the process for awhile. Might be time to pull back now tho…considering the affordable housing Labor is bringing on-line. And the threat of higher interest rates.

    Bloody greedy investors & real estate sods always have to fck things. They lurk outside homes like foxes…salivating. Waiting for the kill.

    P.S. I hated Forrest Gump. Entry way into the BAD ERA. Reductionist, stereotypical crap. Sneaky claptrap.

    Gimme Ken Loach films anyday.

    N’

  200. Filthy thieves!…don’t this lot give donations to the Labor party?…games fckn games:

    Westpac lifting fixed mortgage rates

    Spokesman David Lording says one-year fixed home loan rates will rise by 10 basis points to 5.59 per cent next Tuesday.

    He says the bank will also raise its three-year fixed rate by 40 basis points to 6.99 per cent and its five-year rate by 45 basis points to 7.64 per cent.

    He says rates are being lifted because funding costs have risen.

    (ABC on-line)

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/31/2642761.htm
    ———————–

    Yep:

    The Political Donors of 2006-07

    Westpac Banking Corporation
    Labor: $159,280
    Libs: $112,420
    Nats: $20,000

    As I’ve said before,the government needs to create a lending organisation out of the Super Fund that provides low interest rates for those who are trying to pay off their HOME & run their SMALL BUSINESS in a long-term, responsible way.

    Sick of the financial organisations running roughshod over, and exploiting, the little folk. Turning us into SERFS. And catering to the GAMBLERS & CHEATS.

    N’

  201. Turnbull supports donations ban: Brandis
    Turnbull call sparks Liberals’ fury

    Turnbull has called for a reform of political donations from all sources including unions.

    The government is going to release a Green Paper on this matter and apparently will now bring it forward. The way I’m reading it Turnbull’s plan will actually hurt the Coalition far more than Labor, who at State and National level have been receiving more and growing support from businesses and entrepreneurs at the cost of the Liberals and Nationals.

    Labor has been slowly but surely divorcing itself from unions over a protracted period now as it moves to the centre and like Rudd even slightly right of centre.

    This could be a move by Turnbull to have the Coalition in his pocket, but I doubt that as rich as he is that he could support a major political party on his own.

  202. One thing in this piece below didn’t surprise me and another had me gobsmacked.

    The latter first, Ruddock is a Liberal moderate?

    I would never have guessed that, but apparently he is.

    Just when I thought that we would finally get rid of one of the worst State government’s ever, even worse than Cain/Kirner, along comes the NSW religious right to attempt to screw it up yet again as they have in the last two NSW elections. Seems the moderates have won out for the time being but the NSW Libs are split down religious lines and if they keep this up will be bridesmaids yet again.

    Note the name Alex Hawke mentioned in the piece. He was one of the architects of the NSW State Libs failing in the last two elections. He started as a Young Liberal who was not adverse to doing ‘anything’ to get the religious hard right in charge of the NSW Libs and then State government. He was heavily involved in the ousting of many NSW moderates by branch stacking and ballot rigging.

    He is one to watch as he is touted as the future of the Federal Libs and for mine he would make Howard seem like a wet.

    The Right faction of the New South Wales Liberal Party is being rent by a split between forces associated with state upper house MP David Clarke and his former protégé, youthful federal Mitchell MP Alex Hawke. The philosophical basis of the friction involves the Christian social conservatism of the former sub-faction (the “hard Right”) and the laissez-faire economic orientation of the latter (the “soft Right”), although there has also been talk of hard Right elements seeking a purge of Jesuit-educated Catholics. Principals of the Clarke group include state upper house MP Marie Ficarra and Epping MP Greg Smith, while the Hawke camp can claim state party president Nick Campbell. The dispute boiled over on Monday at the AGM of the Sydney University Liberal Club, which Clarke and Ficarra reportedly attempted without success to take control of (subject of a vibrant discussion at VexNews), and again at a Lane Cove Young Liberals meeting the following night. Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reports the split could deliver soft Right support to factional moderate Philip Ruddock in Berowra, who faces a challenge from Noel McCoy of the hard Right, and Scott Morrison in Cook. Coorey relates that Greg Smith is believed to be carrying the flag for the hard Right’s campaign against Ruddock, which most recently manifested itself in a confrontation during a branch meeting in Cheltenham:

  203. “Labor has been slowly but surely divorcing itself from unions over a protracted period now as it moves to the centre and like Rudd even slightly right of centre.”

    Could of fooled me!

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25865125-601,00.html

  204. You’re easy to fool scaper 🙂

    Unions still have nowhere near the influence they once have and Labor is less reliant on their donations than they once were.

    Did you read the whole piece scaper?

    http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s416822.htm
    http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=1751

    This from Solidarity, and if you search you will find other Union websites with similar lines, waning influence and modernisation in moderation whilst advocating a move away from the Labor party. (emphasis mine)

    “I have no power”

    Robertson has modernised Unions NSW. He rebadged the Labor Council to put distance between the union movement and the Labor government. He argued that the old Right-Left factional divisions were less important than active versus passive union organising. He was vital in supporting the refugee rights campaign in Labor and the unions

    This article puts it in the best perspective in light of being marginalised for over a decade.

    Unions back at the bargaining table

    Finding voice after a decade and getting a few committee positions is not control over the Labor party, far from it, it seems more like throwing some crumbs to a dog to keep it quiet.

    Finally a good paper from Max Ogden on the influence of unions and their future under the Howard government:

    DISCUSSION PAPER: Do unions have a future?

  205. Oh, and I believe unions finding a voice and some influence again is a good thing.

    They are an indispensable part of any industrial landscape.

  206. “You’re easy to fool scaper ”

    Whatever Adrian, I am wearying of your hatred of the conservatives, your pretence of being critical of this government and your imagined superiority that anyone with an alternate opinion is just plain wrong!

    It’s a free blog for people to state their opinion…doesn’t mean that I have to respond in future…it goes both ways!

  207. Mobius Ecko,

    Ruddock was and still is a moderate. Using both him and Costello as examples, the devotion that the true Liberals (ie, those who have worked up the ranks of the party) have to the party is quite amazing as both were willing to put their own ambitions or beliefs to one side in support of the Party position. The position isn’t that much different in the Labor party (eg Wong and single sex marriages).

    Of the two (Costello and Ruddock), IMO Ruddock lost more than Costello; he had a major falling out with his daughter over his positions and the man seemed to physically age as he made comment after comment that he really didn’t believe in – refugees and the Hicks being the case in point.

    People are critical of Garrett selling his soul yet no one ever called Ruddock a hypocrite and yet the two have a lot of similarities.

  208. Good point D55, and well said.

    I have always been hyper critical of Ruddock, mainly over his stance on boat people, but it seems I was wrong as you point out.

    Still it is to be hoped he holds out against the religious fundies in the NSW Libs or we will be burdened with another four years of a State government that doesn’t deserve to be in power.

  209. scaper…, on August 1st, 2009 at 8:05 am:

    Look in the mirror scaper.

    It’s a free blog for people to state their opinion…doesn’t mean that I have to respond in future…it goes both ways!

    …and I’m stating my opinions but you seem to have a problem with that, so don’t respond in future, your problem solved.

  210. For scaper:

    The Conservatives are a fantastic cohesive and socially caring party with absolutely brilliant policies that will save the universe. They are led by a giant of a man, the greatest leader of an opposition ever in the best opposition ever.

    Stupid stupid Australian voters with a complicit terrible media got the greatest socially caring and kindest leader this country has ever known, and will ever know, kicked out in 2007. This man was not only the greatest Australian leader but amongst the greatest of world leaders ever.

    Now we are stuck with a phony, ear wax eating, ute scamming, do nothing boring Rudd. An empty leader who has not done a single thing since getting into power except for spin, and anything he has done has not been original in anyway. He and his party bought on the GFC just by talking about it and then led Australia into the worst financial state of any OECD country during the crisis.

    He didn’t roll out the broadband he promised except for the bits he has rolled out, and he hasn’t done a single thing in the education revolution he promised, except for phase 1 and now phase 2. How dare he not crow about these things.

    Worst of all by far he bringing in an ETS. Doom, doom I say. Australia is roon’d forever.

    There is not enough I can say about how bad this government is and scaper rightly shows there is never enough criticism that can be levelled against it. If it does good then it must be bad and have an underlying nefarious motive or its just spin and hollow.

    So remember people whenever criticising a Labor government make sure you praise the Liberals. You are not allowed to criticise both, that’s a no no because it’s so unfair on such a great bunch as the conservatives of Australia.

  211. Malcolm Turnbull responds to Kevin Rudd’s essay. An excerpt:

    If there is one consistency in his economic meanderings, it is a breathtaking, Orwellian disregard for the truth.

    Let us consider some of the falsehoods in his latest essay.

    Once again he accuses the Coalition in Australia of being a leading force in an imagined neo-liberal experiment that brought on a global financial crisis.

    So determined to cast himself as the great helmsman, he is unable to credit the Howard government for leaving Australia better prepared than most other advanced economies to weather the storm.

    Nor could he pay tribute to his Labor predecessors for their role in creating a more open, flexible and resilient modern market economy. Instead, in Rudd’s fantasy world, the past 25 years have been a bleak period of free-market extremism where not just Howard but Labor leaders Bob Hawke and Paul Keating are cast as willing cohorts in a vast global conspiracy to impose on an unsuspecting world an ideology of unrestrained greed.

    How then could it be that the prudential and financial regulation put in place by the Coalition government has resulted in Australia having, in Gillard’s words, the best regulated financial system in the world?

    How could it be that, unlike the US, Australia suffered from no subprime mortgage crisis? Indeed subprime mortgages were less than 1 per cent of all mortgages outstanding versus close to 15 per cent in the US. And as Reserve Bank of Australia governor Glenn Stevens noted only this week, mortgage defaults in Australia remain at historically low levels.

    How could it be that Australia’s banks remain among the most secure and best capitalised in the world?

    The answer, which Rudd cannot bring himself to utter, is that the Coalition left him with a national balance sheet free of debt and with cash at the bank, not to mention the longest period of sustained economic growth in our history.

  212. Mobius @ 10:12

    Please flagellate yourself wildly & your additional penance will be to utter 1500 Hail Howards & emblazon your forehead with a Red “X” for patriotism.

  213. …no not the Hail Howards anything but the Hail Howards, well anything but Rudd reading me his essay.

  214. Turnbull’s response is as full of fantasy as Rudd’s essay.

  215. After the beers. (Look who’s helping Prof Gates down the stairs while the other person is oblivious to his obvious needs. Oops.)

  216. A heartbeat away. (Well, they said it about Palin, so why not him?)

  217. This is the Olympus PEN Story in stop motion. We shot 60.000 pictures, developed 9.600 prints and shot over 1.800 pictures again. No post production! Thanks to all the stop motion artists who inspired us. We hope you enjoy 🙂

    Amazing.

  218. Insiders says that there were 5000 at the Sydney rally. I think that is a bit high – but it was a great turnout.

  219. And Tony – that Olympus clip is amazing.

  220. I think Barry Cassidy said at the Melbourne rally.

  221. I thought that as well, but I thought he said outside the conference because he referred to the mass illegal wedding…. maybe he meant both rallies?

  222. Herald Sun:

    There were roses, wedding veils and even a three-tiered cake – all in the name of changing same-sex marriage laws.

    The illegal wedding ceremony held on the steps of Melbourne’s registry office felt a little hollow for the 65 participants who committed themselves to their life partners in front of thousands calling for same-sex marriage laws today.

    . . . .The service followed a colourful rally at Federation Square in central Melbourne, as almost 4000 people draped in rainbow colours waved banners and balloons that read “Equal Love”.

  223. Not 100% happy about the term ‘illegal wedding ceremony’..used for emotive reasons by the newspapers no doubt. It’s not the ceremony that is illegal but the registration of the marriage.

  224. scaper…, on August 1st, 2009 at 7:11 am Said:

    Could of fooled me!

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25865125-601,00.html

    Another instance of the media not reporting the full story of the government’s intention.

    Julia Gillard was asked about this question on Insiders this morning.

    The complaint to government has been that certain groups have been excluded from sitting on boards and enquiries, this includes some business groups and unions. The government is moving to include relevant group representation on boards and enquiries, so if it effects workers then both business and unions will have representation.

    You would not have known that by reading the newspaper article, which just picked out the union component.

  225. Adrian
    # and I’m stating my opinions but you seem to have a problem with that, so don’t respond in future, your problem solved.

    I couldnt stop laughing at how simple that was.

  226. But of course Hexx the problem with that simplicity is that it doesn’t solve my problem at all. I will still have a problem with some of scaper’s (and others) opinions, just as they will have with mine (more so with mine probably), and not responding doesn’t make that problem go away, it just makes the opinioner falsely believe that everyone agrees with them.

  227. and not responding doesn’t make that problem go away, it just makes the opinioner falsely believe that everyone agrees with them.

    Good to hear, Adrian. Can I therefore expect you will be answering those questions about Kevin Rudd’s philosophy I asked you over at Gutter Trash yesterday? Or should I assume you have conceded those points?

  228. Why is this blog being left to die? The authors’ content, which would have once been put up here exclusively, thus contributing to this site’s lively and active comments section – and Blogocrats relative success – is now being rationed between three different blogs (with this one seemingly third in line).

    Pity.

  229. Gee Tony, the PM is a phylosophical black hole!

    I’ve never experienced such a plastic lip licking PM in my life…it says it all about the one or two people here that treats him as some form of hard done by hero.

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