Turnbull: “I Will Win the Next Election”

Despite taking a hammering over his handling over the ute-gate affair, and murmurings amongst senior Liberal Party ranks, the Federal Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull is convinced that the coalition will win the next election.

Mr Turnbull is obviously buoyed by a new Newspoll survey that suggests he has clawed back six percentage points to see his overall approval rating rise to 31 per cent.

Relishing the opportunity to appear before an audience of the nation’s powerbrokers, Mr Turnbull today visited a self-funded retiree forum at a retirement village in Sydney’s south and fielded questions about the economic crisis and income tax.

According to reports, one woman in the audience asked:

“Are we going to live long enough for you to get back into government?”

“The answer is assuredly yes,” Mr Turnbull said.

“You’ve only got to wait until the next election.”

“As I said, we’ll be back in power at the next election with their support,” he said.

“And I wish everybody in that room a long and healthy life as I do to everybody of course, all Australians.”

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  1. “Are we going to live long enough for you to get back into government?”

    “The answer is assuredly yes,” Mr Turnbull said.

    There’s something about this that makes it sound like it’s right out of a Monty Python skit, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

  2. Of course he will win the election. He’ll have negotiated a release for Hu after Rudd failed; found new evidence to prove that Haneef really is a terrorist; find new evidence that Hicks is too; reveal that the Global Recession was master-minded by Swan; and show the electorate that he can return the budget to a surplus AND spend billions of dollars on much needed infrastructure.

  3. Is it a Norwegian Blue or an Arctic Grey?

  4. reb,

    It’s all the other Libs shouting “run away, run away”

    Although the black knight analogy (which I assume is what you are alluding to) is right up there as well.

  5. Further . . .

    He will have convinced the workers that they will be better off under WorkChoices; convinced us all they we need upper-class welfare to help the rich; and that a good government doesn’t need to have policies.

  6. I wonder if delusionism is an infectious disease ?

    We have Malcolm, hallucinating over “winning the next election”, despite being one of the most unpopular Opposition leaders in Australian history, and who is yet to even enunciate a policy.

    Fielding and the assorted fools and “sceptics”, who while remaining in (in)glorious ignorance of even the most basic scientific principles, attempt to challenge the basis of scientific thought “because it doesn’t feel right” and who continually attempt to bolster their fallacious and discredited arguments through cherry picking data and plain lies.

    These same people were also (generally) quite happy to support the “evidence free” rationale for invasion of Iraq, with its subsequent enormous costs in terms of human life, and to the environment, not to mention a few $$$.

    Then, of course, they also seem to think that using forged material in attempt to deny the will of the voters is a legitimate route to the power that those same voters cruelly deprived them of (presumably while “sleepwalking”).

    Perhaps, (on the precautionary principle), those suffering from such a “disease” should be placed in quarantine for a while, for the safety of the rest of the human race ?

    There may still be room at Gitmo, which after all, is a humane and caring establishment, as these same people were so fond of telling us.

    No need for trials or hearings though – after all this is a serious issue, and we are facing a new threat, and new threats require that we abandon the principles of human rights and jurisprudence developed in our society, in order to address them, as we have all been taught by the Rat cohort.

  7. Malcolm Turnbull needed a “bit of a pounding” to show he is a good leader, according to Liberal backbencher Bronwyn Bishop.

    “It shows that in politics, to be a leader, you have to be able to get bashed up (and) come back again, and Malcolm has shown he can do that,” Bronwyn Bishop told Sky News.

    “A bit of a pounding?”

    Half his luck….

  8. …those suffering from such a “disease” should be placed in quarantine for a while…

    They normally are – it’s called parliament. But at the moment they are running free in their electorates.

  9. Joe Hockey has been uncharacteristically silent lately….

    Plotting a leadership challenge perhaps….??

  10. I think he is off climbing Killamanjaro at the moment.

  11. And with Therese Rein and son Nicholas.

  12. reb@ 2:26

    ‘Malcolm Turnbull needed a “bit of a pounding” to show he is a good leader, according to Liberal backbencher Bronwyn Bishop.’

    Its reminiscent of something the late, great leader of the BLF (Norm Gallagher) said : re :like a good steak the bosses needed tenderising. (actual quote escapes me)

    Is Bronwen changing her petticoats? /sarc

  13. And an easier mountain to climb than Malcolms.

  14. T’bull hasn’t been pounded..no red meat there. So far he’s been nothing heavier than bread & butter pudding.

  15. One thing I’ll give to Malcolm is that he is an optimist – or at least when it comes to his expectations about himself or the Libs. Definately a glass half empty bloke when looking at Labor/ Greens policy though.

  16. D55

    But even optimists can drown in a half-full bath.

  17. A song for Malcolm..if he could only turn back time, he would have left Nelson to carry the can until say February ’10 and then traa daa have come to the rescue when the GFC became worser and worster. But, impatience is a curse and he has stuffed it.

  18. joni,

    And he’s doing a valant attempt at illustrating that.
    (n politics, it’s a fine line between optimism and arrogance, bravado and stupidity).

    If I was Malcolm, I’d be looking for an excuse (backstabbing etc) in the Libs to get out and cut my losses. Nothing he has done will hurt him back in the private sector but his political judgement has been shown to be suspect and the ALP will play heavily on that.

  19. He obviously doesn’t read Possum, The Coalition Anxiety Thermometer, or he’d be a pessimist.

    And that’s nowhere near the worst of it for the Liberals. Their support base is slowly shrinking away as those pensioners who asked if they would live long enough to see him win the next election die.

    Unless Malcolm turns out to be a real leader and sweeps out the drys from his party, then wrests back the centre ground from Labor then I’m afraid those pensioners will be long dead and worm food before his party sees government.

  20. Agreed Dave. The popular press has been making all sorts of excuses for Malcolm’s lack of judgement..he’s a go-getter..he’s a make it or break it bloke…sometimes it works and sometimes it’s doesn’t..sometimes he makes a couple of million but other times he looses those million, but you have to admire him…

  21. Mobius Ecko

    Unless Malcolm turns out to be a real leader and sweeps out the drys from his party, then wrests back the centre ground from Labor

    Thats it in a nutshell. Unless the Libs can swing back to the centre, they are just going to disenfranchise people who begin to see that there isn’t that much difference between the Libs under Howard pre 2004 and Labor other than a bit more social compassion under Labor. As the Libs move to the right, more and more people from the centre right will gravitate towards Labor. They won’t become rusted ons but they won’t like voting for the Libs and Labor will be the closest to their actual social and economic alignment. Meanwhile Labor will lose some from the left to the Greens but this won’t help Turnbull on the TPP.

  22. Min,

    I agree … It might be an admirable trait in business when it’s their own money on the line, but will voters put their trust in a leader who has a crash or crash through mentality guiding his management of the country?

    The Journos like it because it makes him exciting to reprot on. Doesn’t wash well with the public though as was demonstrated by Latham.

  23. I agree with all of youse.

    Malcolm just isn’t cut out to be a public servant.

    He’s more of a private enterprise guy, where he expects to make a quick and decisive impact.

    He hasn’t really engaged with “his team” and is really a bit of a lone cowboy.

    He’s one of the more moderates within the liberals, and if the old guard (like Abbott) think their salvation lies in going further to the right, then Talculm might just decide to throw in the towel and go back to “the real world”.

  24. Turnbull win the next election?

    I find that almost impossible but I’d pay big money to see the look on peoples faces here if that miracle happened!

    If the libs could form a policy on sustainability without an ETS they would get my vote.

  25. Dave..I think that you are right..it’s ‘reprot’ from journos. Great word! Should that be hyphenated as in rep-rot?

    Mobius..the Libs are dead meat. How can anyone be more middly than Rudd?

    The Libs cannot go to the left and they cannot go to the right without ending up with very ridiculous statements such as from Abbott and his ‘new marriage’.

    The only thing that is left for them is to show us how they would do it better. Which is what we’ve all been saying, but they are not taking the hint…they just keep on with the same ol’ trivia about utes and Therese Rein’s sleeves.

  26. scaper …

    Wouldn’t matter if it came from left or right or included and ETS or not – if any party was serious about sustainability (and that goes for the Greens as well who mistake prohibitions on development as sustainability) they would get my vote.

    BTW, I don’t think an ETS is inconsistent with sustainability. ETSs have been woprking well for salinity in the Hunter River and sulfer doixide in the US for years. I’m still not sure why you are so against an ETS for CO2 and CH4 scaper. The political (and scientific) realitiy is that we have to put limits on these emissions (whether you believe it or not) and putting a price on emitting these substances is the most efficient way to acheive the reductions. Whether it is a carbon tax or a cap and trade scheme, there will be trading of carbon credits – all for the purpose of delivering a more sustainable outcome.

  27. Min,

    re rep-rot (or possibly rot-rep): sometimes typos just deliver a more appropriate ward than was originally intended. 😉

  28. I don’t say much about environmental concerns as my knowledge is limited to coastal and town planning issues. However, just a say. If one creates dirt and mess, then one is obliged to clean up the mess.

    I find it odd when people argue that although there is a mess to be cleaned up, that this is mess doesn’t really exist and it doesn’t have any effect on anyone else anyway.

    I am thinking of a white butterfly in a coal mining town in England..this must be close to 150 years ago. Gradually the white butterfly became a brown butterfly because the species needed to adapt to their environment.

    Luckily butterflies are quick to adapt..it took only about 60 years. How quickly can we adapt?

  29. Dave..I am in complete agreeance…it’s most definitely reprot from most journos. (with apologies to future son in law, who is a journo..who hopefully will not read this).

  30. Min,

    With respocty to the Journos, it’s not so much the actual reporting of the news but rather the commentary and opinion on that news, ie, the reading of the tea leaves by the likes of Milne, Shanahan, Gratten, Crabb, Coorey, Oaks etc.

    I actually quite like Anabelle Crabb’s anlysis and thiink she is often closer to the mark than the others. I’ve lost a lot of respect for Gratten over the past 12-18 mths. I no longer think she has her finger on the pulse of what the politics means to the person in the street. Being a political junkie I probably risk falling into the same trap but I’ve been closer to the mark in my tea leaf reading than most of the pros have over the past 2 years or so.

  31. Dave..I am getting similar, that Gratten is tired of it all and is impatient about all the BS. I enjoy Crabb too as she has a lovely subtle sense of humour. A mate of mine is Mungo MacCallum..a neighbor while we were living at Billinudgel.

    http://www.echo.net.au/

    And Mungo is at: http://www.echo.net.au/columns/mungo_maccallum/kevin_remembers_climate_change_200907132209.html

  32. ps..I hope that someone will take the time to read Mungo’s comment. But for those who don’t have the time..from Mungo..

    It seems clear that if Hu had been engaged in any kind of espionage, it is the economic kind, which has always been acceptable in the West. In China, where industry is an integral part of the state, things are obviously more complex. The issue will require sensitive and serious handling; so has there ever been anything sillier that Malcolm Turnbull’s demand that Rudd pick up the phone to the Chinese President and demand Hu’s immediate release? ‘He’s one of us, he’s a fellow Australian,’ raved our alternative Prime Minister.

    Yes, Malcolm, but it’s not the 19th century any longer. China is a sovereign nation, a world power. So just what do you intend to do if the uppity heathens refuse to obey the white man’s legitimate orders? Send a gunboat?

  33. Sure you will Malcolm, now be a good boy & get along behind your Howardian dinosaurs with the pooper-scooper.

  34. Of course Mr Turnbull’s going to say he’ll win the election. People do this all the time. A football team doesn’t run onto the field thinking they’re going to lose; they say we going to win this. It’s called positive thinking. The trouble is, for Malcolm, it’s not going to help.

  35. Tony,

    What do you think the odds are that Malcolm will opt for the “team approach?”

    You know, that successful tactic employed by Howard, Dolly and Tip in the lead up to the last election?

    You’re not just getting rat features – you’re getting the whole team!

    Only this time it consists of Hockey, Bishop and Pyne with Abbott kept locked in the crypt somewhere with Philip Ruddock.

    Speaking of dead people, whatever happened to Kevin Andrews?

  36. Reb,

    According to the place I go to forsuperior knowledge on these matters, Malcolm will lead the Libs into the next election. Partly for that reason (the alternatives are even worse), they have no chance of winning whatsoever.

  37. Oi Turnpike, 2 win yer need to take a sharp turn to the right. Rule out the republik an us top blokes might jest let yer play with the ball, OK?

  38. This retirement village caper says it all about the Libs.

    The Blue Rinse Brigade now populating God’s Waiting Rooms (like the one Big Mal visited) have been the core of the Liberal Party’s electoral support-base for the last 40 years. Apart from Young Fogey-types like Pyne and Abbott, these guys are the rusted-on supporters who have supplied the Libs with their 30% base-vote over that entire period: Old Reliables, one and all.

    No wonder Mal is encouraging them to hang-on (on life-support, if necessary) to cast a vote at the next election.

    The trouble is that as St Peter turns-up to cart them-off one-by-one, you can just see Liberal polling support heading south, point by percentage point.

    It’s a real problem and you can bet the Libs are fully aware of it.

    Possum did a good analysis of the phenomenon a month or two ago, so you lot might want to head-on over to his site to gaze in awe at all the nifty tables and graphs. None of it is good news for Mal & Co, I’m afraid.

    This is the demographic that has been with the Libs since the days of Menzies. And now they’re slowly dropping-off the twig. The next demographic down are a bunch of Boomers who don’t get bleary-eyed at the mere mention of Blessed Bob. They are (like me), generally a bunch of former long-hairs and student ratbags who recall the Springbok Demos and hold a healthy scepticism of so-called Conservative Values rather close to their hearts.

    As for the next lot down the scale, (Gen X and Y), they would rather wear platforms and dance to ABBA than vote LIberal.

    The Liberal Party is stuffed.

  39. reb, on July 14th, 2009 at 5:47 pm Said:

    Only this time it consists of Hockey, Bishop and Pyne with Abbott kept locked in the crypt somewhere with Philip Ruddock.

    Proves how good he is in staying under the radar. How come most forget to mention the worst of the worst of the radical right, the Liberal’s mover and shaker and probably the one who is making life hard for Malcolm, the architect of the most draconian IR legislation ever attempted to be foisted onto a Western nation and most Eastern nations as well, WorkChoices MkII;

    Who died and left Nick Minchin in charge?

  40. Minchin’s a top bloke with terrific political instincts, OK? A genius. A giant. of a bloke who likes a toke, OK?

    I mean the reality is at the end of the day the whole bloomin world’s lurchin to the right, encouraged by the invisible hand of the market straight up the kyber, OK?

    We super stars of management are 123% right again, the invisible hand is always right, an between us we’ve got the business of management 123% sussed out, the process of 360 degree solutions is owned by the masters of the universe, OK?

    The take-out message fer yer tiny brains is so simple even dills like yers should get it. We’ve got ter do what the bloomin markets dictate, there’s abso-bloomin-lutely no room for debate in a democracy is there. Jest shut up, get back to work an fer once in yer flippin lives yer little ppl should do as yers are told by yer socio-economic superiors, OK?

  41. Tony,

    I have no problem with Turnbull saying this stuff but I reckon he looks like a goose doing it.

    Most teams that say they are going to go out there and win do it in the sheds iout of the public eye – in front of the cameras they downplay their chances and say how good the opposition (in this case the Government) are going but they will put in 100% (or usually 110%) and hopefully get across the line. Most teams saying this also have at least some proven ability (read policies) to give these comments a shred of credibility. Unfortunately for the Libs, all they have is increase the price of smokes and reintroduce the private health rebate.

  42. Dave,

    I agree Turnbull’s got no hope, but I disagree that pronouncements of this kind shouldn’t be made publicly.

    A classic example is Muhammed Ali. He’d famously predict the round in which he would “finish” his hapless opponent. This not only put pressure on the poor guy he was fighting, but back on himself – to the extent that it became a self-fulfilling prophesy. “If he talk a little jive, he’s goin’ down in five!”

  43. Poor Malcolm gets it wrong again and no sooner has he launched his debt truck and the figure on it is completely wrong.

    Good tidings on debt and GDP

    I also heard on radio this morning business confidence is now as high as before the GFC hit and many businesses are looking to expand in the near future.

    Seems to be Turnbull’s lot; quickly shoot off at the mouth, slowly back down for stuffing it up.

  44. Tony,

    Except Ali was at least a chance to win!!

    It’s OK to talk the talk if you have the walk to go with it. Turnbull’s comments just make him sound like he’s on another planet.

  45. I agree with Dave..big tactical error T’bull..the last thing that the Libs need or want is a protest vote against them via an aura of smugness (T’bull is going to have to work on this big time). However, he just seems to go in t’other direction.

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/millionaires-oiling-turnbull-machine-20090714-dk53.html

    What say we all kick in a few grand and become one of Turnbull’s ‘benefactors’. Benefactors…just what one of Australia’s richest men needs…

  46. What a damning link MIn, and he had the gall to go after Rudd over an old ute. It turns out that not only was the $10 million of public money granted to a friend but also contributor to his personal political fund raising forum.

    And get this;

    Others include the former chief of the failed investment bank Babcock & Brown

    One failed investment bank head to another.

    Turnbull should not be let anywhere near the leadership of this country and the more of this that is revealed the more unelectable he becomes. Labor must be stashing tons of stuff like this away, ready ammo for the next election.

  47. PS.

    No wonder the Liberals are so desperate to hang onto Malcolm, without him their cash cow goes.

  48. Labor must be stashing tons of stuff like this away, ready ammo for the next election.

    But unlike the previous government, they are not bullying the public service to do it for them.

  49. Min, on July 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm Said:

    “T’bull hasn’t been pounded..no red meat there. So far he’s been nothing heavier than bread & butter pudding.”

    Lay off b&b pudding Min, it’s delicious.

    Tony, on July 14th, 2009 at 8:35 pm At least Ali was making his claims from a position of strength.

    Malvolio must have bi-polar, but he never leaves the manic state, just keeps getting higher and higher. He shouldn’t have stopped taking the prozac.

  50. […] In fact, he announced this to a group of old aged pensioners at a retirement village the other day. […]

  51. Jane..with apologies to b&b pudding. I should have said like b&b pudding minus the sultanas 🙂

    And yes Adrian..obviously the man is a hypocrite. This is just my opinion based on his actions to date. Yep, that’s it..Rudd’s mate lends him an old ute for campaigning purposes and Turnbull’s mates chip in upteen grand to become ‘patrons’, ‘benefactors’ or ‘governors’ (depending upon how much they are willing to fork out).

    Isn’t this all just a wee bit odd. Imagine if Turnbull won the election (far fetched I know) but then all these people could claim to be patrons, benefactors and governors of the Prime Minister of Australia.

    The terminology itself is archaic and also suggests that the recipient of the patron/benefactor/governorship is under some sort of obligation to those donors. Well..maybe at least it’s honest…but doesn’t go down overly well with the idea of a democracy.

  52. Min, something else I find disturbing is that Turdbull is expected to contribute something like 20 million dollars of his own money to the Liberals’ campaign. That sounds like a rich guy trying to buy the Prime Minstership. It is surely a perversion of the spirit of democracy. There should be a law against donations of that szie.

  53. I’m positive there is so I don’t know how Turnbull is going to achieve that.

    Also extremely hypocritical is the fact Turnbull as a backbencher tabled a policy to stop donations from institutions and unions whilst allowing unlimited ones from individuals.

    Guess who benefits almost exclusively from that policy and who suffers?

    I know Howard was tricky and sneaky but I didn’t know Turnbull was worse. His low opinion ratings are justly deserved from what I have learnt of him since he became party leader.

  54. And Caney..a backflip with pike..

    From: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/turnbull-backs-call-for-cap-on-donations/2008/01/28/1201369038314.html

    THE shadow federal treasurer, Malcolm Turnbull, has joined the NSW Opposition Leader, Barry O’Farrell, in calling for changes to the laws on political donations, and a ban on corporations or unions donating money to parties…

    Mr Turnbull said the democratic system was not working properly when there was such a disparity between what government and opposition could muster for election advertising.

    Under his proposals, only “individuals” who were Australian citizens [note: other than Australian citizens being Turnbull’s ‘benefactors’..my insert] or on the electoral roll would be able to donate and those people must “certify that the funds contributed are from their own or spouse’s resources”.

    Caps should also be placed on individual donations, he said.

  55. First thought was why would a multi-millionaire need it:

    It costs $5500 to be a “member”, $11,000 to be a “sponsor”, $16,500 to be a “patron”, $25,500 to be a “benefactor” and $55,000 to be a “governor”.]

    Second thought was that it sounds like Tupperware 🙂

  56. Correction to my post then. Turnbull did want a cap on donations.

  57. Next thought was that it sounds religious..patrons and benefactors…and what to make of the term ‘governor’.

  58. Last thought and good evening to all. Scenario: Partner 1. arrives home for work. Partner 2. Says, sweetheart. I thought that we should put our life savings to some good use. (breathless)..We’ve become one of Malcolm Turnbull’s benefactors. Darling..what do you mean, No it’s nothing to do with Nigeria.

  59. Tony, on July 14th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    “We will do the best we can for and by the Australian people, whether in Opposition or in Government, and we trust that our best on their behalf will be accepted as being best for all Australians at the ballot box. Thank-you.”

    Missing ingredients: being best, or even good, or even considering what is best or good, or even having a focus not themselves, or even being thankful, or thankful for the trust and support which might be reposed in them. They have no ‘mandate’ either as an Opposition nor as an Alternative Government. Perhaps. And all of their behaviour of late adds up to the same thing, including the idea of ‘winning’ by being ‘returned’ to ‘power’, which is still a backwards-looking way of approaching a ‘next’ when the world has ‘moved on’. And, really, someone should tell ‘them’ that ‘cutting down’ an opponent is not the same thing as ‘building themselves up’, and is an obvious brand-character flaw and an impediment somewhat akin to shooting themselves in the foot; explicable, perhaps, only through their own self-knowledge, and they know themselves best after all, that they have nothing good in the prevailing environment to ‘build up’. They desperately need to reinvent themselves, imho. Yes, Malcolm and the Coalition could win the next election by being ‘better’ and therefore ‘best’; but he and they won’t.

  60. Legion

    Well said (and I suspect Tony might even agree with some of that).

  61. Mobius,

    Quick summary of my comment posted over at Possum’s place: Any chance of success in a high risk strategy relies on the risk attaching to either a policy (doesn’t apply in the case of the Libs) a smear so damming that the Libs win by default (difficult to see happening). Otherwise, the cost is that the public see you as risky and just wont vote for you (eg Latham).

  62. Legion 6:11 am,

    an impediment somewhat akin to shooting themselves in the foot

    I’ll say. (It’s a wonder they have any toes left.)

    Dave 55 9:03 am,

    I suspect Tony might even agree with some of that

    Indeed.

  63. Tony

    Not sure that Neil would though 😉

  64. This nation is screaming out for a new political force as the major parties are turning out mediocre candidates due to the nature of their internal machines and the people with talent and conviction are isolated, they never get a chance of representation so they are lost to us.

    I have a ‘hunch’ that such a party will emerge in the next nine months with a broad based policy platform ready to take on the rest and will take votes from all three parties with an aim to hold the balance of power in both houses of parliament in less than a decade.

  65. Faulkner removes FOI exclusivity; media bunfight begins!Something that would never ever happen under a Turnbull government or any conservative government.

    Brilliant John and Kevin, just brilliant.

  66. Just spotted it too Adrian. I agree, just brilliant. It comes under the category that one should be careful about what one wishes for. Were the newspapers just in it for the headlines or was their real motivation Honesty and Openness..I guess that we’ll find out.

  67. I just can’t understand how come we can have John Faulkner on one hand doing things like this and the idiocy of Stephen Conroy’s Internet Filter on the other.

    This certainly is a government of contrasts. At least you knew exactly where you stood with the previous government, nowhere.

  68. Adrian..I have absolutely no understanding about the Conroy internet filter issue. If you could it explain it for a non-computer such as myself, very much appreciated. All that I know is that people who know about computers don’t like it. It was an election promise? And it seems that Rudd is hell-bent on honoring election promises..for good or otherwise.

  69. That is very good news as it was a great concern of mine when the PM was in opposition, I wrote to him concerning this issue and he replied that he had passed it on to Senator Joe Ludwig MP for consideration.

    Shame this does not extend to the state governments as I’m getting the brick wall treatment from Bligh concerning the development of the Upper Warrego that is stealing Gigs of water from the MDS.

    I have written to Greg Hunt with my concerns and he is following it up.

  70. They were singing,
    “bye-bye, miss american pie.”
    Drove my chevy to the levee,
    But the levee was dry.
    Them good old boys were drinkin� whiskey and rye
    Singin�, “this�ll be the day that I die.”

  71. Mobius,

    the idiocy of Stephen Conroy’s Internet Filter on the other

    Speaking of which.

  72. So what is Malcom Turnbull’s policies for winning the next election?

    Aside from visiting some retirement homes and assuring them they will still be around to vote.

    Create some policies Malcom, be an opposition.

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