Double Dissolution Defused?

In all the fun and games yesterday, the opposition helped pass the Alcopops legislation, although four coalition MP’s voted against the legislation.

Of course, the coalition rightly want to spin this as helping the budget, but the more cynical would see it as removing a possible DD trigger – especially with the fun and games in the lower house yesterday.

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  1. I completely missed out on the Double Dissolution angle until my wife commented on it. I reckon it was a confluence of issues though. There was the hypocrisy of their “smoking tax” idea whilst objecting to one on alco-pops, there was the loss of their “economic management” argument shoudl they blow a hole in the budget, and then there is the double dissolution trigger they cannot afford right now.

    Makes you wonder just how much their failure will affect their political game plan. For example, the ETS vote is coming up – so the DD is still possible!

  2. The DD s still possible if they want to get their ETS up. Hmm . . .? Rethink . . . .A DD could wipe seriously damage the Libs. No reason to expect that Labor mightn’t get more seats. The danger is if the Greens get more.

    Fielding probably gone. . . . . .

  3. Maybe the DD trigger was influencial, although I think the CPRS will be the DD trigger. Interestingly, I don’t think that one Coalition member actually voted for the legislation. The reality was that hardly any of them turned up to vote. 2 Liberals, 2 Nationals and 1 Independent voted against the legislation.

  4. Very good point Al, it was no so much that they voted for the legislation, more that they abstained from voting against it.

  5. Very good point, Al. Wonder how they are going to spin that?

  6. My ideal scenario…a new party formed in the next six months which is comprised of independents, a kind of coalition ready to run at the next election, concentrate on the marginals due to the mass disillusionment in the electorate, win enough seats to hold the balance of power which will reduce the risk of special interest.

    Dreaming…we’ll see.

    If there is no new party the Greens could eventually hold the balance of power…that would be a disaster in my opinion!

  7. I believe the DD should now be seriously on the agenda in the ALP Party Room …

    Not a big fan of DD because of disruption and cost – but this time it might reduce both in the long term …

    … from an earlier post on Godwin and Badwin

    TB Queensland, on June 23rd, 2009 at 9:16 am Said: Game set and match: Rudd & Swan

    Anyone on the Opposition who believes this attack is sustainable needs to go back and re-read The Art of War … political suicide now …

    This will also not help the Independents or Greens …

    As for the Government I’d say seek a reason to call a DD, ASAP, and decimate the Coalition once and for all …

  8. *mass disillusionment*????

  9. My ideal scenario would be a party made up of “real representatives”. That is, a party of people which serve their constituents first & foremost and some “political ideology” second. But I think my dream is even more unrealistic than yours, scaper.

    We have the capability now to have interested citizens vote on most important legislation. A party dedicated to voting on bills as their constituents decide is something I would be fully behind.

  10. The only reason I would like to see a DD, is to get rid of the idiot independants. Feilding is a Royal Blue Lib at heart and the guy with the funny spelling needs to broaden his outlook. I would not like to see any one party with an absolute majority in both houses, see what happened to thr Rodent and the current rabble we call the opposition. I wouls not like to see any one party ram through legislation again.

  11. Tolputt, you have pretty well described what is needed so this nation can advance and sweep the hammocks out of Parliament House.

    I find ideology to be too self confining in this day and age and the party lines are such that there is no room for innovation as far as policy is concerned.

    After a lot of introspection I consider myself to be a ‘Conservative Environmental Socialist’…no wonder I give mixed signals on a variety of topics, LOL!

  12. Ben, part of the problem of that is that you would quickly see a reintroduction of the death penalty amongst other things, although I share your desire for a more representative system of government.

  13. “Death penalty?”

    Now you’re talking. It ought to be compulsory. Particularly for those people that insist on brining their new born offspring into the office.

  14. Brining new born offspring?

    That’s one way to keep the population down…lol!

  15. Sorry I meant “branging”

  16. Reb..you are in deep poo. As a supplementary honorary uncle you are on baby sitting duties when the matelot and crew lob.

  17. Ben, part of the problem of that is that you would quickly see a reintroduction of the death penalty amongst other things, although I share your desire for a more representative system of government.

    True, there would need to be an underlying “constitution” or similar that created a foundation that cannot be changed without much more effort.

    I know “mob rule” is pretty damn bad but, at the moment, we have no control over our representatives. That’s not the way democracy is supposed to work, it’s just how the people in power have twisted it.

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