Kevin Rudd, oink, oink, oink…!

It should comes as no surprise, that, whenever the Liberal Party finds itself bereft of any tangible, credible forms of criticism of the Federal Labour Government or its policies or initiatives, they simply revert to their tired old tactic of personal abuse.

In yet another example of the depths the Liberal Party is prepared to resort to in order to bring Kevin Rudd into disrepute, Liberal Party frontbencher Peter Dutton has launched the most extraordinary personal attack on Kevin Rudd that perhaps we’ve seen since the last election.

Mr Dutton says Mr Rudd has earned the nickname “the pig of Australian politics” for his behaviour on a recent VIP flight.

Mr Dutton has told ABC2 News Breakfast that Australians are starting to get to know the real Mr Rudd.

“He’s been described lately as the Barry Humphries of politics; he’s up on top of those stairs hopping into the VIP flight overseas waving like Dame Edna Everage,” he said.

“Once he’s on board he turns into Barry Humphries, he turns into the pig of Australian politics; this is a bloke who we have only just scratched the surface on.

“The pig of Australian politics?” Isn’t that taking things just a bit too far? I mean really, what an extraordinary accusation and unwarranted personal assault.

Clearly, the Liberal party are rattled that Turnbull’s ratings continue to slide into oblivion, but to try and drag up the old RAAF incident – which didn’t affect Rudd’s ratings in the last newspoll one iota – simply smacks of desperation.

“he’s been described as the Pig of Australian Politics?”

By whom exactly? Joe Hockey…?

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125 Responses

  1. Didn’t Dutton used to be a policeman? Jeez!

  2. YES!

    As I’ve often said. People have a tendency to accuse others of what they see in themselves. Funny that.

  3. Those in the inner sanctum of Australian politics would know more about the off-the-record personality of the PM than I do, so I won’t comment further, except to share the following:

    Where there’s smoke, there’s blue cod.*

    *The above expression was made famous by racecaller Bert Bryant of then 3UZ (now sport927).

  4. By who is the burning issue isn’t it. He has not suffered any fallout when the story was hot off the press, why on earth would the Libs waste their time trying to drag a non issue up. I guess some of the very low percentage of voters that like Turdball may think that, but Barry Humphries…please, can’t they be a little more creative.

  5. Dutton couldn’t even get his his analogy right – I assume that he meant that Rudd turned into Sir Les Patterson when he got on board – not Barry in his personal non-acting capacity. If I was Barry Humphries, I’d be pissed because I read that quote as saying that Barry Humphries is a pig.

    And Tony, I’m sure your right that Rudd does have a temper but this sort of attack isn’t doing the Liberal Party any favours; it’s just turning the swinging voter off.

  6. WOMAN, BRING ME FOOD!!!

    NOW.

    That’s what we consider to be appropriate behaviour from our PM’s, particularly when they’re hungry and on an aircraft.

  7. Tom
    The alleged problem wasn’t the existence of food but rather that it was the wrong food.

  8. Dave55 is right Tom.

    It wouldve been,

    WOMAN

    WHERE’S MY SALAD ROLL!!

  9. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NO CAVIAR????

    I WANT IT! NOW!

  10. He behaved like a pig and the Libs are entitled to try to get some traction out of it. And I think in time they will. Not for this incident itself, but because they detect a pattern of behaviour. Rudd will do it again, and perhaps again after that. It is for the next times that it’s important for the libs to highlight this incidents.

  11. James, the difficulty is that we have a report from an unknown source (unnamed) who proports to have seen Rudd saying something to a female person who was reduced to tears 3-4 months ago. Well, it’s not even clear whether this person was a female, but that this person was described as an RAAF caterer..whether outsourced or enlisted likewise has never been specified.

  12. Still prefer Rudd to the former member for Bennelong.

  13. Min, you are in denial. We have a formal report prepared by the girl’s boss and a half admission and half apology from Rudd. If he hadn’t done it he would have denied it. The guy is a pig, and has displayed it on a number of occasions. The libs have decided that he’s displayed it often enough for it to be a character flaw upon which they can capitalise. Welcome to politics.

  14. Nope James, not in denial..just a military mum.

  15. “he’s been described as the Pig of Australian Politics?”

    By whom exactly? Joe Hockey…?

    Nup. Bill Heffernan, actually.

  16. Min I don’t actually understand why the question of whether the woman concerned was enlisted or outsourced is continually raised by you.

    How is the status of the woman concerned relevant to the behaviour displayed?

  17. Tom. I’ll try to explain it to you. It makes a lot of difference as to whether the person was enlisted personnel or not.

    Example, the scenario of a Prime Minister abusing enlisted personnel requires the intervention of the Governor General.

  18. Fine Min, but that is an outcome. It is of tenuous relevance to displayed behaviour.

    The relevant point is the behaviour displayed by the leader of the country. This should not change regardless of the status of the person on the receiving end of his anger about his food.

    Whether this finishes up with the GG, and whether he provides any counsel to Rudd about the behaviour is an entirely different issue.

    I still can’t quite understand why you seek to send everyone off on in this direction.

  19. James wrote

    Rudd will do it again, and perhaps again after that.

    How do you know he will? Have you got a crystal ball, Nostradamus? He didn’t get to where he is by not learning from his mistakes.

    The lousy Lieberals, on the other hand, don’t seem to ever learn from theirs The filth and smear attacks they have run against Rudd ever since he became Opposition leader have each time hurt their own cause, yet still they persist.

    Who exactly isn’t learning from their mistakes?

  20. Tom of Melbourne,

    The woman is in the Australian defence force. If she cannot take a verbal reprimand without going to water, she’s in the wrong line of work.

  21. I think that Rudd’s past behaviour is one issue.

    The recent Newspoll taken after “the incident” indicated that the issue didn’t register with the Australian public, or at least, wasn’t sufficient enough to damage Rudd’s standing in the polls – and his record popularity.

    What I find interesting, is that Dutton should attempt to re-ignite what had previously been regarded as a “non-issue” by calling the PM a pig.

    All the fuss they tried to make about it a few weeks ago didn’t work, so what makes them think it will work now?

    As I said, smacks of sheer desperation if you ask me…

  22. Tom of Melbourne, on April 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm Said:
    Fine Min, but that is an outcome. It is of tenuous relevance to displayed behaviour.

    And Tom, your evidence of this ‘displayed behaviour’ is what?….oh you read it in the newspapers. Therefore it has to be the truth.

  23. In my book, someone calling someone a “pig” (Mutton, er, Dutton) is worse than an executive (Rudd) scolding an employee.

  24. Caney – “If she cannot take a verbal reprimand without going to water, she’s in the wrong line of work.”

    If anyone is on the receiving end of anger, and they have no control over the delivery of a solution, some emotion is a likely result. Get real Caney.

    Min, you seem to be suggesting that in apologising for his behaviour, be was being insincere?

  25. Min,

    I think (correct me if I’m wrong) that you (or someone else) previously suggested that the young woman in question was probably in tears not so much that she was offended, but possibly more that she was worried about her job after upsetting the PM.

    To me this seems like quite a likely scenario.

    But there is just so much speculation and uncertainty about this entire incident, that to be honest, I think we’ll all be forever stabbing in the dark as to what really happened.

    Meanwhile The Libs are Calling the Prime Minister of Australia “a Pig”

    Not quite respectful of the Office is it?

    After a year in Opposition, abysmal poll ratings and the prospect of an early election that would see them relegated to Opposition for another term, it is easy to see why the Libs are positively seething!

    *chortle chortle chortle…*

  26. …no control over the solution or the cause of the anger in the first place…

  27. If anyone is on the receiving end of anger, and they have no control over the delivery of a solution, some emotion is a likely result. Get real Caney.

    So it’s OK for the defence force lady to emote, but not the Prime Minister? Get real, Tom.

    If anyone is on the receiving end of a wrongly-filled food order, they are perfectly within their rights to complain, in my opinion. It’s not as though there was a whole 747-load of tourist passengers to cater for.

    Anyway, what a pathetic beat-up. The Liberal pigs have a leader themselves who is known for his explosive temper. Wait and see what happens if he slips up in a moment of frustration. Then the pigs will get their attack turned back on themselves.

  28. Nope, not me reb. Son is a 7 year matelot .

    Anyway..It’s a furphy. If the person 3-4 months ago was worried about her job then why hasn’t he/she never come forward?

    After all he/she would have nothing to lose if he/she was an enlisted person and he/she couldn’t just be sacked without a military investigation. …and it never happened.

    Wait for it..it’s a furphy!!!

  29. And who was it that stood up Nicola Roxon and then retorted with a little outburst: “That’s Bullshit!”

    I don’t see anyone in the Liberal party rallying to defend the sensibilities of Nicola Roxon, or does their appauled outrage only extend to women’s sensitivities when it suits them…?

  30. And this where the squiggly media brain re-tuners think that they can manipulate public opinion.

    Example: Lets just say we put out a story about how Rudd 3-4 months ago reduced a ‘someone’ to tears. Rudd admits that he was p’d off and bob’s yer uncle..Rudd has ‘anger issues’.

    Does Rudd indeed have anger issues? Well we don’t know of course because the information is from the popular press about an unsubstatiated ‘something’ about a ‘something’ that ‘supposedly’ occurred a couple of months ago. Nothing like having the facts in front of one.

    But Rudd must have anger issues because the popular press told us so.

  31. The Liberals should be careful what they wish for when harping on this trivial incident from months ago.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/this-goose-is-cracking-the-golden-egg/2008/08/22/1219262526777.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

    Sydney Morning Herald, 23 August 2008

    … Turnbull also arouses a lot of resentment. His critics see him as brash, arrogant, condescending and impatient.

    ___

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/mal-tries-to-put-on-a-happy-face/2007/03/01/1172338793116.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

    Sydney Morning Herald, 2 March 2007

    When he was working for Kerry Packer a few years back, Malcolm Turnbull described himself as “a very hard person”.

    “I don’t suffer fools gladly,” Malcolm said. “I’m very impatient, very aggressive. I wish I wasn’t any of those things.”

    Former political ally Wendy Machin has also noted: “Yes, he can lose his temper. I’ve seen him thump the table when tense negotiations are happening.”

    And it’s just not true, according to another Malcolm interview, that in his merchant banking days he was known around the office as “Ayatollah”.

  32. reb,

    and lets not forget the behaviour of Heffernon to women or Tuckey to just about evryone other than male WASPs. This doesn’t excuse any poor conduct by Rudd BTW but I don’t recall Dutton getting all worked up over his fellow Libs when they step out of line.

    Did any of you cath Costello’s agitation of this issue yesterday as well:
    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/opinions-count-for-much-more-in-modern-politics-20090414-a67s.html

    Check out the heading of the same opinion piece in the SMH:
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-immoral-to-hold-the-wrong-views-20090414-a674.html
    but note particularly the words that appear in the viewing tab for the SMH link: “Peter Costell | climate change skeptic” (WTF?)

    I have no idea why Costello is trying to dredge this crap up – people were actually listenting to him when he talked about economics (well some people might have been), if he keeps up this play the man stuff, he will become as unpopular as Turnbull for the same reasons.

    Worth cheking out Posum’s post on this as well:
    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/04/16/boofheads/

  33. FMD, I keep spelling Possum’s name wrong 😳 Apologies again Poss if you’re reading.

  34. Thank you Dave55..hadn’t clocked into Poss. Interesting stats (as always from Poss). But does this mean that Turnbull is 10% or umm 80% less sexy than Howard??? With apologies, I’m not good with maths.

  35. Apologies for the ommission, this was with reference to the stats re female voters.

  36. Hells bells..not doing well this arvo. It wasn’t the big Ommm.. I meant omission.

  37. Peter Mutton should remember the company he keeps in the Liberal Party …

    The Age, 23 August 2003
    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/08/22/1061529333629.html

    … charges [Wilson] Tuckey reportedly faced in 1967 for beating an Aboriginal man with an iron bar, allegedly while the man was being held down. Tuckey was convicted of assault and fined $50.

  38. reb,

    Just remember that I am in the same boat (plane?) as the PM as I made someone cry a few weeks ago.

    😉

  39. Yes, but that’s alright Joni because don’t forget

    SHE HATES YOU!!

  40. And I wear that with pride!

    joni for PM!

  41. Joni..if you made someone cry, then the person had to have been a bloke. Aka, sorry I’m taken.

  42. If Dutton really wanted to cause offence, he could’ve just said that whenever Rudd gets on board a plane he turns into someone from Queensland.

    Which would be factually correct I suppose too.

  43. Kevin Rudd has a reputation; he earned it when he was Wayne Goss’ hatchet man.

    Questions about his volatile demeanour predated his leadership.

    It is hardly a new issue.

    Why excuse it? Why obfuscate about it? Why muddy the discussion with non issues about enlisted or otherwise.

    Temper tantrums by people in leadership positions should not be tolerated.

    WOMAN, GET ME MY CAVIAR! I’M THE PRIME MINISTER AND I’M HUNGRY!

  44. Wow, this thread has been an interesting read, people objecting to the PM being called names and in the same comment calls elected officials of the opposite team names.

    Then it degenerates to a point where someone here questions if the incident indeed happened…it has been common knowledge for months and finally made the papers despite Lachlan Harris’s attempts at a cover up which to me is the concern.

    So the PM threw a tantrum…big deal, it wasn’t the first time and it won’t be the last either, it just proves he is human opposed to a demi-god that some on the left would like to believe.

    To tell you the truth I don’t think much of the PM or the opposition leader due to my belief that they are not doing a very good job but they are elected officials that should be accorded the due respect.

    I believe the elected officials of this nation are a reflection of ourselves so abusing them does none of us favours.

    Shame there is no people of the calibre of Billy Hughes out there…in my opinion the last one that came close was Keating.

  45. “It is hardly a new issue.”

    If it’s hardly a new issue, why are the Libs desperately trying to turn into one…?

    In terms of being rude, arrogant, out of touch and so far up themselves they can hardly stand up straight, I reckon the Liberals (take your pick – Howard, Abbott, Costello, Hockey, Downer, Andrews etc) have a helluva lot more form than the milky bar kid!!

  46. Scaper: So the PM threw a tantrum…big deal, it wasn’t the first time and it won’t be the last either, it just proves he is human opposed to a demi-god that some on the left would like to believe.

    Says who? The popular press? Surely you know better than to believe what is written in the newspapers, just because the newspapers have told us so.

  47. Silence Everyone!

    The Lord Mayor of Crapperville is gracing us with his presence to bestow his opinion and critique of the discussion thus far.

    Thank you Lord MayorThank you Mister Grace…..

  48. Min, you should brush up on your political history if you think that Rudd’s anger has only been an issue on this occasion, and only during recent weeks/months.

    It was an issue prior to him becoming leader, it was known during his time as a senior Queensland public servant.

    Really, you more than anyone else ought to be critical of this behaviour.

  49. Sometimes when we want a person to embody what we believe, we would like him or her to be exactly what we would them to be.

    However they are human and likely to have behaviours and traits that we don’t like.

    I had a sneaking suspicion that the Prime Minister may not be the nice person that I want him to be for a while, but maybe the evidence is that he may be after all a real arsehole.

    Look. The whole think smacked of a beat-up. There was Kevin saving the world from economic disaster in London and there the opposition was trying to spoil his moment by raising a moment of irritation.

    I also feel the PM’s pain. I am on a diet as well and I lost about 11 kilos. My only treat is three biscuits at morning tea. But if for any reason the biscuits are not there I can become really irritable, and also prone to raise a tantrum. Food does evoke the sort of anger that you may have experienced when you were two. “I fucken wait all day for my biscuits. The only fucken treat in a whole day of salads and boiled vegetables and I can’t get my fucken three biscuits? Waaaaaaa!’

    It is possible that Rudd experienced the same thing on that flight. It rgeressed to some early chidhood trauma of wanting something and not getting it, something so basic as food can do that. Also there is the theory, stipulated by Karen Inge, head of nutrition at the Victorian Institute of Sport, that Rudd’s iron deficiency because of the diet is the reason behind his rude behaviour.

    We have all read of course about how much work he has demanded from his staff. I also recall that he used to be quite testy with staff when he was working for the Government in Queensland. I remember people like that when I was working for the Victorian Government. Maybe Rudd was different but I thought that the reason why they could throw their weight around like that was because they were appointed by the minister and they felt protected and above everyone else because they had the aura of ministerial appointment. I hate to admit it but Rudd is not a person I feel like I could warm towards. He seems to be the type that forces himself to be likeable but makes everyone on edge. He would be the type of person that would make me feel uncomfortable if he joined my table during a work lunch, that makes me feel like making an excuse and join the table where the mail boy and the admin assistant are having a great time making lewd jokes and talking about the footy.

    I may have to accept that Kevin is on my side of politics, but he is not the person I would associate with. But he has to be careful. His popularity won’t last for ever. And an arsehole boss is something many Australians don’t like.

  50. Min, I learnt this from a friend in the Air Force at least a month ago and really didn’t care as the PM has a history of such behaviour.

    I’m positive I saw the PM on TV admit the incident and brushed it off as only human, is he fabricating this too?

  51. Reb, playing the man, not the message is so typical of you when you are in one of your bitchy moods.

    Obviously you can not handle criticism, albeit constructive, I think it is time I moved on again…Crapperville awaits, LOL!!!!\

  52. …but, but, but you can’t leave again, yet … we don’t have an update on the latest botox news.

  53. LOL – you think that Dutton is dredging up old history with the air rage incident how about Cossie in the SMH yesterday. I only just got around to reading it and couldn’t stop laughing. First because the most ‘immoral’ things he could attribute to Rudd were the strip club and air rage incidents. Secondly because he appears to believe those two events are equivalent to abusing your parliamentary position by threatening retribution against a business and the alleged misuse and misappropriation of funds.

    It’s so good to see the opposition realises that there are important issues that need addressing. (Sarc)

  54. you are funny scaper. All you ever do these days is show up to have a winge about the blog. See you next time.

  55. Just for you, Tom, back to normal…Reb’s link looks like my son!

    I’ll pop in again some time just so you can have a dig…you must be my second biggest critic.

    Bye…

  56. OK, so the botox is gone, are you considering a face lift? Breast augmentation? Liposuction? Share all the details with us!

  57. Good point Huh, I don’t imagine you would be too bothered by the behaviour of anyone with anger problems.

  58. yes tell us scaper!!!

  59. Now that was funny Tom!

  60. Reb..as of 6.02 nobody has an avatar with the exception of scaper.

    Just thought to let you know.

  61. Min

    I am still seeing the avatars.

  62. Joni, it’s me you and scaper. Now that’s a scary thought! But true dinks. Whoops, reb is back again and Guido too. Obviously just a hiccup in the system. Sorry for being a bother. Delete above….

  63. I was making my invaluable contributions via mobile (which may explain the absence of my avatar) however I’m back on a landline.

    Now what was scaper saying about making “constructive” criticisms again..?

  64. “I am still seeing the avatars.”

    I’m seeing avatars & sanctimonious trolling from a pricked ego.

    Another random lamaste’ outburst.

  65. Tom of Melbourne, on April 16th, 2009 at 5:37 pm Said:

    but, but, but you can’t leave again, yet … we don’t have an update on the latest botox news.

    Stuff the botox. That’s only a a ‘bit’ part. I want news of the 200 km per hour trains: the water running ‘downhill’ from the Ord to Perth: the regeneration of the central Australian soils: the wife overendowed with new boobs at the hand of the Chinese surgeon; the ‘peaceful’ dolphins and the next move on the GSC.

    Tom you need some perspective. First things, first.

    As for Rudd and the attack by Dutton. Dutton shows promise as the ‘new’ Abbott. He is hard working and has some ability but I think he is ‘old’ politics. He needs a gig on morning television but, given his ‘attitude’, that’s somewhere down the track.

  66. Rudd really should have taken to the hostie with an iron bar, after of course, the hostie was held down by a few of Rudd’s mates.

    That behaviour is acceptable to the libs.

    Just ask Wilson Tuckey.

  67. Sorry Caney, I posted my comment before I read your comment on Tuckey. I jumped the gun again. I guess that makes me a pig.

  68. My silly mistake pales compared to the idiot Tom has made of himself on this thread.

    Or am I jumping the gun again?

    No doubt while perusing the remaining posts there will be one from Tom confessing to all his lunacy.

    What are the odds of that?

  69. To use a 60s phrase, right on migs, but only if she’s black.

    And it all still smacks of Shreddergate to me. Don’t tell me that if this little lot was known 3 months ago, it wouldn’t have been plastered over the front page with all the confected outrage the opposition and their media hacks could raise.

  70. Golly Miglo – how very hurtful. Fortunately I have a rule of never taking such comments seriously.

  71. Golly Miglo – how very hurtful.

    I just can’t help myself Tom. I can be a real prick at times. It comes from living in Adelaide for a while and having to defend one’s self from all thos asshole Crow’s supporters.

  72. Did anyone see QandA tonight.

    John Elliot is a joke. Fancy a guy who traded a company whilst being insolvent trying to tell the government about deficits!

    And we must find the “They call Costello Yellow” video clip. Outrageously funny.

  73. I missed it Joni. I’ve been too busy reading Tom’s posts.

    I’m getting the impression that Melburnians – all of them – are fine custodians of moral virtue.

    BTW, loved your comment about preferring the Pig to the former member of Bennelong.

  74. Three little pigs:

  75. And I loved John Elliots diatribe tonight on ethics and manners. I wonder if anyone showed him what the former member for Bennelong did when someone collapsed in front of him – did he help or did he stand and watch ?

  76. joni, on April 16th, 2009 at 10:42 pm Said:

    Did anyone see QandA tonight.

    Sort of. John Elliot isn’t a joke anymore, just a pathetic figure of fun.

    Q&A reached a new low tonight.

    Bowen handled himself rather well in the sense that he didn’t make political mistakes but the whole notion of ASBC ‘balance’ is now exposed as an intellectual nonsense.

    Elliot’s presence is a ‘balance’ for the ‘sober’, the ‘solvent’, the ‘articulate’, the ‘liberal’, the ‘married’, the ‘rational’ or whatever. A complete embarrassment but maybe the next leader of the Liberal Party? President or Opposition Leader?

  77. I actually enjoyed the sparing between him and the comedian (should I use the feminine?). She gave as good as she got.

    I like the format – very organic. Sometimes it is intellectual and sometimes stupid. Unlike here which is always at the peak of…….. oh dear, which one is it?

    I’d like to book a one-way ticket to Crapopilis please.

  78. Well N5 – the Mayor reality is a man for all seasons.

    You obviously enjoy the delusional rantings/visions of gravity defying water.

    Personally I prefer to follow the practical advice about cosmetic surgery.

    I know it must seem relativity low brow compared to the stuff you discuss with him.

  79. joni, on April 16th, 2009 at 11:11 pm Said:

    actually enjoyed the sparing between him and the comedian (should I use the feminine?).

    I found her a complete pain, regardless of her political views. As for:

    Sometimes it is intellectual and sometimes stupid.

    I’ll have a wager on the stupid. As for:

    I’d like to book a one-way ticket to Crapopilis please.

    Apparently they are doing a special on Crucifixions or at least a pretense of same.

  80. Yeah she was – but as a counterpoint to John.

    You mean we are stoopid???

    How dare you rate us that high.

  81. Tom of Melbourne, on April 16th, 2009 at 11:17 pm Said:

    I know it must seem relativity low brow compared to the stuff you discuss with him

    Discuss? Please I am in awe of his visions. I suspect his next contribution will be an anti-gravity machine that … whatever.

    Tom I know it’s tough but you are only second on the list while I am the ‘leader’. Something to to do with history apparently.

  82. joni, on April 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm Said:

    You mean we are stoopid??

    Lol. Never have I ever said same. But if I am allowed the luxury of making a suggestion, can I suggest an occasional reference to ‘international’ issues and those forces which impact on the ‘big’ issues.

    Bashing the Liberals is a bit unnecessary and cruel because they are unchallenged experts at that activity,

  83. Well N5, I must admit to being most perplexed and disappointed by Mayors the comment that I was not in first place.

    It is a bitter lesson that I will have to learn to deal with.

  84. So who is the biggest pig

    Someone who speaks so harshly to a floss he makes her cry.

    Or somebody who politcizes tragic events

    Interesting how they have gone from ‘We will decide who comes here’ to ‘its all for their own good’.

    Pathetic.

  85. Tom,

    I’ll be putting up a post on the Asylum seekers shortly..

    Cheers
    reb

  86. Thank you Tom R..there have been comments about this elsewhere which have included no sympathy for the victims, but a re-run of Children Overboard. That is trying to gain political mileage. Evil people who set fire to their own boat..only this time it’s Rudd’s fault.

  87. Min

    Yes, I saw them after I put this up. OOPS

    I also see that others have done the same before, so I am not alone 🙂

    Reb, cheers back

  88. Rudd was unwell and after a long day missed out on a meal, as did the rest of the travelliing group, and the plane was not due to land until early next morning. Instead of food (any food!) he got a serving of lip in return as I understand it. This was one in a long line of stuff ups as Laurie Oakes has reported

    Dutton and the Libs supporters on this blog now want us to accept that the Napoleonic ex-merchant banker would have taken the situation quietly? The same guy who was warned by people on his own side about his volcanic temper (Tony Abbott) when he was elevated to the leadership?

    Pull the other one.

  89. Yeah Johnny – that’s exactly what I have been saying.

    Rudd was hungry, therefore he got angry.

    And when a MAN is ANGRY he can be excused. It wasn’t his fault he was angry. Blame someone else for temper. That’s what I always do.

    After all, the job of that WOMAN was to feed that MAN!

  90. Yeah Tom you have in one fell swoop exonerated the ex-merchant banker.

    Yes it was HER job to supply the meal and not engage in lip service don’t you think?

  91. I’ll take the lip service any day of the week…….

  92. Thank you James, now get back to work!

  93. Yeah, Kevin Rudd is a very important man. He’d been at a meeting!

    He should never get hungry, particularly when a fake hostie can be blamed for not getting the food he needed.

    He is allowed such latitude to excuse any poor behaviour, anger and rudeness. Particularly when is a HUNGRY MAN.

    And a fake hostie should NEVER bother to talk back, or indeed express an opinion, to a very important and hungry man.

  94. “And a fake hostie should NEVER bother to talk back, or indeed express an opinion, to a very important and hungry man.”

    Try telling that to a Qantas hostie.

    (If you can find one).

  95. Tom..get over it. The incident where Rudd supposedly gave an RAAF caterer the rounds of the kitchen was months and months ago (no verifiable reports, just blahs from the popular press). He apologised at the time and he has since again apologised.

    I just have to laugh how people get suckered in..the same people who read all about Britney and Paris.

  96. I agree Reb. But Qantas have real hosties.

    And everyone knows that real hosties can please themselves about food, service, even emergency evacuation.

    Try as I might, I’ve never managed to make one cry. Real hosties are impervious to conflict, complaint, criticism.

    That’s why I love them.

  97. Min – I am over it, I didn’t post the thread.

    I just participate here, just as you do.

    You just have a different opinion to me, this is something you should get over.

  98. “Real hosties are impervious to conflict, complaint, criticism.”

    True.

    But Qantas hosties take that all a bit further…

    Qantas hosties are impervious to polite requests from passengers, or from being interupted at all really. In fact they may as well not be there.

  99. “The Opposition keeps returning to this issue like dogs returning to their own vomit”, to quote a previous PM of some notoriety.

    I suppose the Libs have gotta do something to try and put some sort of a dent in Rudd’s astronomical popularity, but really, is endlessly raking-over a fourth-order news item like this the way to do it?

    Only the next round of polls will tell us for sure, but so far, the evidence suggests that whenever they’ve gone after Rudd personally, it’s only cost them votes.

    Remember the repeated character attacks made on him in the 12 months leading-up to the 1997 election? They sure worked didn’t they?

    My money’s on Mr 18% staying at about 18% and Rudd remaining in the low 70’s.

  100. Tom, you are playing the archaeologist again – digging up the past.

  101. Tom would be good at digging, he has extentions.

  102. Tom..you can’t have an opinion without factual information. I don’t think that you would like to be just gaining your data via the popular press.

    Good grief..saying things such as Rudd was ‘hungry’ is just pandering.

  103. Aqua, not only is Tom good at digging, he is also good at dragging. And dribbling.

  104. Once we start talking about dribbling…

    I think it’s time to open up Frolykz!!

  105. when it comes to my food im just a caveman, while she was back chatting i would off opened the plane door and thrown her out(with taxi money).

  106. Min, you seem to have difficulty accepting some basic facts. The issue of Rudd’s temper has been around for longer than the past few weeks.

    It was an issue prior to his elevation to leader. He had this reputation as a senior public servant.

    It isn’t a fatal flaw, it is a human weakness. He will always be under scrutiny because he has this reputation.

    And if there is a thread on the topic, I’m simply posting opinion that is relevant to the thread.

    For some reason you seem to be willing to accept similar comments about Turnbull, but object to this commentary about Rudd. This seems remarkably inconsistent to me.

    If Turnbull ever happened to lead this country, I’ve no doubt his temper would receive similar commentary, at least from me. But he isn’t PM, and doesn’t look likely to be.

    No idea why you think I’m “pandering” ie indulging weakness, but there we are, I don’t get too bothered about such things.

    Perhaps try some of your own advice, as issued at 1.47pm today.

  107. # If Turnbull ever happened to lead this country, I’ve no doubt his temper would receive similar commentary, at least from me. But he isn’t PM, and doesn’t look likely to be.

    Lol enough jokes for now, Turnbull wont ever lead the country. Also i doubt very much he would of been criticised over the same issue.
    This girl should know were she works, its not all hugs and kisses. she aint right for the job and is no longer there for that reason.

  108. PIGS FLY !!!!!!!!!!!

  109. The Pig of Steel????? where is he now ???

    and I dont mean Captain Goodvibes…

  110. Tom to Min:

    For some reason you seem to be willing to accept similar comments about Turnbull, but object to this commentary about Rudd. This seems remarkably inconsistent to me.

    There is a difference Tom. Min doesn’t carry on like a broken record, unlike your good self.

  111. Miglo – Of course I carry on like a broken record!

    Most do here – we’re hardly likely to change the opinions of one another.

    I’m always happy being contrary – better than being part of the group with beige opinions.

  112. beige opinions?

    Speaking of which..

    Where’s TB?

  113. Most do here – we’re hardly likely to change the opinions of one another.

    So why try? Tom, it obviously has some narcotic effect on you.

  114. How about amber opinions?

  115. Miglo,

    I didn’t see you over at the “Should we ban smoking” thread…?

    Conspicuous by your absence I might say.

  116. I was on another blog and the topic was the right hijacks history and to an extent and the left hunt in packs.

    I have to admit that I posted a link to this thread as a case study to prove or disprove the point.

    Tom, old chap…I seem to find myself agreeing with you on just about every topic, change of opinions???

  117. “If Turnbull ever happened to lead this country, I’ve no doubt his temper would receive similar commentary, at least from me. But he isn’t PM, and doesn’t look likely to be.”

    Tom, you said it buddy. And the reason is that he and his hopeless crew get themselves distracted with twaddle like this.

  118. Miglo, on April 16th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    No worries at all, mate. I enjoyed your comment about some of Rudd’s mates holding down the victim while Rudd attacked with an iron bar. Tuckey-style, the Liberals should have no problem with it.

  119. I just have to laugh how people get suckered in..the same people who read all about Britney and Paris.

    I don’t know that they’re sucked in, Min. More likely it’s a case of their following the script as per the current Talking Points party members’ memo.

  120. “I seem to find myself agreeing with you on just about every topic, change of opinions???”

    That’s what happens when you inject poison into your head (to make the nerves stop working), have a major extension of a vital anatomical instrument, then have the wife pump up her breasts to the size and suppleness of watermelons, and a put a substantial down payment on a matching mistress.

    Mad people start agreeing with me.

  121. LOL, Ross Sharp. Ugly Heffernan and short Liberal memories all round, I agree.

    However, journalists will continue pursuing Rudd over his behaviour onboard a RAAF aircraft, primarily because the immediate response of Lachlan Harris, Rudd’s unimaginative spin doctor, was to tell News Ltd hacks that no such incident took place.

    He lied and, accordingly, his position as a senior advisor to the PM is unsustainable.

  122. Miglo,

    I didn’t see you over at the “Should we ban smoking” thread…?

    Conspicuous by your absence I might say.

    Sorry for the no-show reb. Have been extremely busy at work and at home so had to turn a blind eye to Blogocrtas for a few days. Am off interstate for a couple of days as from tomorrow so the Blogocrtas cold turkey has a bit longer to run.

    Smoking doesn’t need to be banned, I just wish smokers would show some consideration. My big gripe is against those idiots who throw lit cigarette butts out of car windows. Three people died in Bendigo in February and 50 homes were lost through a fire whose origin was traced to a cigarette being thrown from a vehicle.

    I like the occasional cigar, as you well know, but I find cigarettes tasteless.

  123. Miglo,

    I wasn’t having a go. Just miss your usual thrust and parry.

    Yeah I hate cigarettes too. But if the circumstances are right, I can still puff on a cigar or a pipe.

    Secret Gentelmen’s stuff as you’d well be famiiar…

    😉

  124. Yeah I hate cigarettes too. But if the circumstances are right, I can still puff on a cigar or a pipe.

    And let me guess what those circumstances are. I’m guessing that it involves a couple of bottles of premium shiraz.

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