Chillin’ by the Watercooler…

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Welcome to our beginning of the working week idle chit chat thread.

It’s been very hot, or at least so I’ve been told in recent weeks, so a nice glass of iced water might just be what we all need right now.  Or maybe not…

There’s been lots of rain in Queensland, which is also a hot place too. This makes for a rather sticky combination, which probably explains why everyone is so badly dressed and the locals all make Steve Irwin look like Sir Humphrey Appleby tired.

Anyway, pull up a chair and place your orders.  Today’s bar attendant has been seconded from Qantas so you may have to wait a while, if in fact you’re served at all…

Don’t blame me. I just work here…

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198 Responses

  1. My Amnesty International ad at the Mardi Gras Film Festival was a success – it looks great on the big screen.

    And then yesterday was a waterlogged Fair Day.

    And very “gay” weekend all round.

  2. It’s been overcast since I arrived back in Tasmania, so it’s been a very “gray” weekend all round.

  3. There’s an Australian brand sugar free soft drink I buy from the local IGA. It doesn’t sell as well as the “normal” drink, so they only have 2 of the 5 rows dedicated to the sugar free variety.

    When in Coles the other day I went searching for it. None. Ten rows of the normal variety, none of the sugar free. Doesn’t it sell well enough for Coles?

    I checked out some naval oranges. The sign said “Product of the USA”. Is this the FTA at its nasty work? What’s wrong with our oranges? Surely the wholesale price can’t be that much different?

    Tried for some seafood. “Product of Thailand”. Looked at some sliced ham. “Made from Australian and imported ingrediants”. How can a pig be made from Australian and imported ingrediants?

    Why buy Australian when they don’t sell it!

  4. I checked out some naval oranges. The sign said “Product of the USA”. Is this the FTA at its nasty work? What’s wrong with our oranges? Surely the wholesale price can’t be that much different?

    I heard a story a couple of years ago about a ship at the Port Melbourne docks unloading its cargo of Californian oranges. Nothing unusual about that , of course, except that the cargo waiting to be loaded on board, for the back-load to the US, was – you guessed it – Australian oranges.

  5. Having never got to the bottom of the “Stickers on trains rendering them unserviceable” union rumour, I’m also now interested in the “Baggage handlers demand extra money to work because of smoke smell” issue and whether that is union related. Both stories have died a remarkably quick death and I’m interested to know whether that is because the initial accusation against the union was false, or whether there has been another reason to drop what I would have thought to be a big story. If the accusations were false, I would have thought that to be a hige story in itself. This is not a “Unions Boo” thing for me, but an attempt to determine whether there should be a “Boo” to unions in these cases or a “Boo” to whoever spread the story.

  6. Miglo

    Parsley
    mint
    ginger
    shallots
    onions potatos
    zukini
    asparagas
    eggplant
    okra
    grapes
    apples
    peanuts
    corn
    tomatos
    lettuce
    Chilli’s 4 diffrent types
    all australian grown in our own backyard
    plus 3 eggs which have been layed in the last two days.

  7. “all australian grown in our own backyard” (Aqua).

    Well Aqua, you have nothing to fear about going hungry when your wife goes overseas.

    Can you cook?

  8. dont bring that up, i was sucking sympathy and getting food parcels dropped.
    (all rabbit food)

    can you cook?

    my phone is ringing……(Hides)

  9. joni on the ‘crazy eyes’ bishop thread is copping heaps for dropping ‘brang’ into a sentence, that got me thinking about another topic for discussion – mondegreens.

    I was just thinking of them the other night at work, I was playing a relaxation tape for an irritable baby and the Enya song ‘Orinocco Flow’ came on. I always think the chorus is ‘say a prayer, say a prayer, say a prayer’ but I think it actually is something else – what?

  10. KL……Sail away sail away sail away….

  11. BTW Miglo,
    Lmao on that telstra deal, get in quick.

  12. Aqua, it must be wabbit season.

  13. A relaxation tape? Enya? Orinocco Flow..??

    That’s enough to make me go out and murder someone!!

  14. Reb, what does Durham Town do then?

  15. Thanks james, that sounds so much more relevant to the song!

    migs,
    You can check ouy whether a company is oz owned and what products are sold at Ethical Consumers Guide

  16. Thanks Kitty.

  17. Aqua..

    avocado
    limes
    lemons
    parsley
    mint
    spring onion
    thyme
    corriander
    rosemary

    I think that your list is bigger than my list. Obviously the Min household should pull it’s socks up. Another inventory due in 6 months time.

    Whoops, forgot the butternut punkin’ – 4 so far but all the flowers for the past week have been boys (punkin’ growers..deep sigh).

  18. Migs,

    You – of ALL PEOPLE – had to bring up Roger Whitaker again didn’t you.

    If I hear that whistling c*** one more time. I swear I’ll…Oh I dunno…Do something real nasty…

    And don’t DON’T get me started on kaftan man “Demis Roussoss” (or whatever his name is).

    “My friend the wind”

    Yeah, whatever. F**k off….

  19. Reb, absolutely no chance of me bringing up that Demis bloke.

    However . . .

    After getting stuck into the Queenslanders all day I reckon that TB might consider him as a little payback.

    Go for it TB. Cut loose.

  20. Yeah most of the stuff is still young but others produce a lot.
    with the left over chillis we grind them to powder and sprinkle it on the garden bed. kills the snails and slugs makes ants hate you.

  21. Visit Aqua’s – home of the angry ants.

  22. While TB gathers his thoughts…

    Musical interlude:

  23. Aqua, now this is very important and so other blogocrats, please hold on for 5. You recon that ground chillis kills snails. Have had some success with left over coffee from J’s percolator.

  24. not sure if it kills them actually, but we dont have any after using it.

  25. Well done aqua..not sure if it kills ’em but they’re gone. Good enough for me. I don’t actually want snails killed but I would like them gone. Jeff recons that the chilli might have given them ‘the runs’.

  26. If it wasn’t for imported fruit and veges we would only have them in season, not all year round. That is why we also export our fruit and veges.

  27. Miglo, on February 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Demi who? Wasn’t he the bloke that used to fart to get the high notes – you know – The Wind and I 😆

    …and have you noticed how “worldly wise’ our “new” sreb, is, after travelling to Queensland and VN – FFS!

    Typical Taswegian – thinks flying for a few hours North is the end of the world, when its really just the beginning!

    Talk about a little knowledge is dangerous!

  28. aquanut, on February 16th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    aqua, our resident blue tongue lizard family take care of all our snails – funny though, when we realised they lived in our yard we stopped using the bloody snail pellets and the snails disappeared and the lizards have multiplied! We humans are pretty bloody slow on the uptake sometimes…

  29. 3 varieties of hot chilli
    capsicum
    banana chilli
    parsley
    zuchinni
    spring onions
    mint
    thyme
    oregano
    lettuce
    occasional tomato
    rosemary

    N’

  30. “I heard a story a couple of years ago about a ship at the Port Melbourne docks unloading its cargo of Californian oranges. Nothing unusual about that , of course, except that the cargo waiting to be loaded on board, for the back-load to the US, was – you guessed it – Australian oranges.”

    Heating the planet comes in many shapes & sizes…:)

    Hey Reb…I was petty in saying “anywhere but Sydney”…I actually enjoyed some of my time there…nude swimming under the Taronga zoo pathway…The Rocks…walking thru the inner-city late on Sunday when barely a soul was around (I lived dead centre for awhile…all up 8 mths)…the book & record shops…the cinemas….

    And I would love to visit my mates down there oneday. But I found it too cold & full of SUITS for me…tho I imagine it depends on where you live. My mate T’ moved there and loves it. He’s part of the big gay community there.

    Remember this?:

    (The Lemonheads – Big Gay Heart on Top Of The Pops)

  31. Eight varieties of thistles
    One variety of blackberry
    St. Johns wart
    Cutty tussock ,and more,

    And an Apple tree.

  32. Lang Mack

    Glad to see you joining in.

  33. “Eight varieties of thistles
    One variety of blackberry
    St. Johns wart
    Cutty tussock ,and more,”

    Sounds like a concotion to get rid of hangovers LM…:)

  34. Wonder would that concoction cure Brewer Droop?.

  35. St johns wart, so good for so many things. shame about the name

    we dont get all those things but they provide for more.
    tomatos that are no good give the seeds for next planting and so on. I learnt a lot but not enough from an ex naval chemist, he knew everything about plants and soils back in Gulgong named BUZZ. just a gardener now in his older years.

  36. Brendan Nelson is quitting politics.

    Shame – he seemed to be actually a good guy.

  37. Just a quick couple of things before I place my frail frame into the eiderdown,
    Wonder how Howard and Costello feel about their pat on the back to “Catch the Fire” loonies, not a thing I’ll bet; (as for Hillsong and Exclusive Brethren),
    Sad to see Julie go, great value in ineptness, hope the Mad Monk hangs around, got to pay these meaningless twaddle merchants anyway, and,
    I’m very disappointed with you lot and my quiz. (Ok Canadian Rail,1970).

  38. Ever heard of traing with chilli, i use to love it but im a freak.
    At 10 meters we had to change the flat tyres of a push bike with a torch as it was night time, not as easy as it sounds. This must be done after consuming the hostest damn chillies that laugh at you as your about to eat it. I think i knew the aim of the training, to make sure we like spicey food.

  39. “Wonder would that concoction cure Brewer Droop?.”

    or itchy ale?

    N’

  40. aquanut, nothing like a hot chilli to get a buzz on. Dad was born in India so dinners w/ him led to a gradual addiction to the high. Ever had them in beer?…it’s one of my faves.

  41. Shame – he seemed to be actually a good guy.

    Dr Nelson didn’t – couldn’t – hide his feelings, and that was seen as a weakness by many of his critics. I disagree. Brendan Nelson is an honest man, whose main driving force wasn’t political expediency – something that can’t be said of most of his contemporaries.

    I agree Joni. It’s a shame.

  42. Yes Nelson’s gone Further evidence of an ‘Intelligent Designer’?

    Will now have more time to sit in gutters at 3.00 AM drawing ‘lines in the sand’.

  43. Tony

    Very true. Honest emotion is viewed as a weakness… whereas I think it is a major strength.

  44. “Brendan Nelson is an honest man”

    Any evidence? Perhaps testimonials from his two ex-wives? They might suggest he was less than ‘honest’.

    “whose main driving force wasn’t political expediency”

    You mean his endorsement of ‘intelligent design’ in science classes wasn’t political expediency? Are you seriously suggesting that as a Medical Doctor he believed in that nonsense? That he believed ‘non-falsifiable’ propositions ought to be in the science curriculum?

    That when he denied he had ever voted Liberal in his life, he was being honest?

    Please. A bit of history rather than hagiography would be useful.

  45. While we are on the subject of Brendan, what about his political expediency re the Exclusive Brethren.

    “he was providing schools run by the Exclusive Brethren with exemptions from testing computer literacy for Year 6 and Year 10 students, despite this being made a condition of Federal Government independent school funding.”

    http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20070215-Nelson-and-the-Exclusive-Brethren.html

    Further:

    “Once again, a Howard Government Minister has been caught doing dirty deals with the Exclusive Brethren and bending law and government policy to assist them with non-integration. Nelson obviously thinks it’s OK to provide $6.6 million in funding to schools that teach their students that computers are instruments of the devil.”.

    No political expediency? Lol.

    And I won’t even mention his Defense decisions.

  46. I don’t know whether or not Nelson was honest, but I’d have to err on the side of assuming he wasn’t – he is a politician.

    Additionally he is a middle aged man with an earring. He is therefore a bit suspect and a dork.

    Did he take up riding motorcycles late in life? Is so this is also an affectation.

    Mind you, I’ve seen him deliver a reasonably well articulated speech without any notes. Rudd read his.

    Still Nelson was particularly unengaging. Rudd had a big advantage, no one expected him to be remotely engaging and he fulfilled expectations.

  47. Tom of Melbourne:

    ” err on the side of assuming he wasn’t”

    No need to assume Tom. Check the historical record and much of the evidence is self provided.

    As for the motorcycle bit, apparently it’s a lifelong (since age 17 anyway) affliction.

    Nelson will be featured in the historical record but as a footnote at best. Something like “former member of ALP who became Leader of the Liberal Party because he wasn’t ‘politically expedient'”.

    Unbelievable!

  48. I have to agree with N5, I think Nelson when he was part of the team in power, was happy to toss his ideals and beliefs aside for the sake of political ambition.

    Driven to succeed, but ready to leave now because there’s nothing in opposition for him.

    Perhaps he’s already got something lucrative lined up. Maybe in his middle years he has also realised the value of family life, too late though for the former wives – collateral damage of the career?

  49. Migs at 4pm asks: “How can a pig be made from Australian and imported ingredients?”

    Hmmm.

    Maybe the pig was imported and the plastic wrapping was local. Or perhaps the pig was imported and the chemical gunk they used to cure it was local.

    Possibly it was a sub-atomic inter-dimensional pig with multiple points of origin, being some crazy by-product of a nasty accident involving livestock and the Large Hadron Collider.

    Most likely, though, someone in the product labelling department was having a bit of fun.

  50. “Possibly it was a sub-atomic inter-dimensional pig with multiple points of origin, being some crazy by-product of a nasty accident involving livestock and the Large Hadron Collider.”

    That got me chuckling Evan. Good stuff.

    N’

  51. Min, on February 16th, 2009 at 7:21 pm Said:
    TB I have to choof due to dinner duties.

    Min

    As promised re your query ‘tother night.

    85 yo aunt had a heart attack (Sunday week ago) “significant damage” but since then has deteriorated psychologically very dramatically, rambling speech, hallucinations really quite awful stuff.

    The doctor thought it may have been the medication and stopped everything – she became reasonably good again for a couple of days but has now “retreated” and has become worse – doesn’t know us sometimes, talks to images, believes her husband is going to divorce her (he died over five years ago!) – she won’t eat, rarely sleeps…that doesn’t help…

    …to make it worse (just a bit more pressure) my sister appeared suddenly on the scene – hasn’t spoken to our aunt for over 30 years! Told me during our first phone conversation for months that, aunt B had revoked our EPA – well, well, people don’t change their spots!

    …when my son heard, he said one word, “…money…”

    …she ain’t got any BTW! …and we do have EPA (checked with the Public Trustee)…

    …and my sister may be remorseful (she is an RC) but past history rears its ugly head…

    One thing that did p!$$ me off was the hospital calling my sister behind my back to bring my mother to the hospital after I had said I wanted to discuss it first (my mother has dementia and it could have been a shock to her…) and I think the hospital wanted to establish once and for all who had EPA (they now have a copy).

    The Minister used to run a round shopping, paying bills, dealing with Vets Affairs, washing etc and then aunt B (as she always did) got nasty – she broke her ankle (split up the bone not across) and ended up in Kilcoy Hospital – a days trip we used to make twice a week. She got nasty again and I finally said that’s enough…and we arranged OZcare…she “rubbished” The Minister and me to anyone who would listen…

    …and the person most upset and concerned for her – you guessed it – The Minister ….

    …the hospital has just informed us that she is incoherent at the moment and we are waiting for the results of a CT scan (from yesterday)…and a new drug has been administered…

    (Apologies for long post – and to blogocrats not interested – but it has helped to write it down…thanks Min)

  52. TB, if you feel like writing I am at min underscore kelpie at yahoo dot com dot au. Or ask joni or reb et al.

    Have been through similar with Jeff’s Auntie, ugly rellies. I would love it if you wrote. Perhaps I can be useful for you and The Minister. Or at least a non-family ear…

  53. Thanks very much, Min, a lovely offer. I’ll tuck that away in my Blogocrats list…

    …we are on top of it now, apart from the waiting to see which direction she will go – better or worse…

    …most difficult part was the sudden appearance of my sister…she now “knows her place” in the scheme of things – may have been altruistic…who knows…

    …always told my kids and g/kids – once you have a reputation (good or bad) it is difficult to change…

    …just a waiting game now – we visit every second day – ie tomorrow…

    Thanks for your concern really appreciated (see? Lost one aunt gained another! Ain’t nature clever?)

  54. Sorry to hear about your situation TB…at least you have the support of the Minister, Min. & can see the positives in it. I give you credit for dealing w/ this sad episode head on…many can’t cope and head for the hills. I hope that when I’m heading off to other pastures I have family who give a stuff like you do. Such a shame the family is conflicting over it…but it happens so often…anxiety…& greed can bring out the worst in some.

    N’

  55. Had the ugly moment when Jeff’s maiden aunt decided to depart. The rule was that the house in Bundoora was to be equally divided amongst the grandkids (all 15 of them). Jeff’s uncle and the ugly wife did some dreadful things such as trying to force Auntie to sign a new will leaving everything to him. We ended up having to alert staff at Charitas Christie.

    Horrible stuff happens when $$s are involved.

  56. Thanks N’

    My sister was handed “all” power (EPA, executor) over mum by dad about ten years ago (we’d had a family “blue”, ’caused by my sister but she was the “darling”) – anything in the will is to be divided between the grandkids (two of mine, two of sisters)…

    …about 12 months ago one of my sisters kids and her husband bought a bakery franchise – sister tried to get mum (now 86) to “…give the kids $30,000 now…” – guess what was owing on the franchise…she refused, my kids were furious…

    …bloody hell, the penny just dropped…they have just bought another bakery! Nah! Shakes head…pulls funny face…swears profusely, walks around office – decides to post!

  57. Miglo

    Regarding a pig made from australian and imported ingredients. there have been many cases where the bone inside is australian and the meat wrapped around it was imported.

    Also it could be imported pork cured in an australian brine solution.

    I have no doubt the meat content would be the imported part of the item.

  58. ” there have been many cases where the bone inside is australian and the meat wrapped around it was imported.”

    I think I’m going to be sick.

    Speaking of which…I was enjoying that series ‘Taste of Iran’ the other day on BBC World News…interesting views on gender relations there (apparently the mountains are the place to go for sharing moments w/ the opposite sex) …& some of the architecture is amazing. But once the articulate Iranian Affairs Expert Sadeq Saba starting chowing down on elephant ears I deleted the show. Now i’m wondering what came next. Darn that itchy remote trigger finger.

    N’

  59. “anything in the will is to be divided between the grandkids (two of mine, two of sisters)…”

    That’s the way to go TB…we don’t have kids, nature decided we’d be better off assisting other peoples wee ones…so we intend to leave our assets & any leftover moolah to our nephews & any other youngun we’ve informally adopted that are willing to provide day/night service to our surviving cats…:)

    N’

  60. And by the way, for all you economic doomsayers, yes McPhilbin, I’m looking at you…

    The latest news going around the aconomic fraternity is that the worst of the share market fallout is now behind us.

    The US sharemarket is up by 8-9% compared to where it was in Novemeber last year..

  61. nasking, on February 17th, 2009 at 1:32 pm Said:
    “anything in the will is to be divided between the grandkids (two of mine, two of sisters)…”

    That’s the way to go TB…we don’t have kids, nature decided we’d be better off assisting other peoples wee ones…so we intend to leave our assets & any leftover moolah to our nephews & any other youngun we’ve informally adopted that are willing to provide day/night service to our surviving cats…

    N’

    Is that you, Daddy??

  62. “Is that you Daddy??”

    LOL!! You know that was actually very funny…

  63. James of North Melbourne, on February 17th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    LOL! James – see you do have a sense of humour! 😀

  64. Ewww Shane, imported meat wrapped around an Australian bone. I am certain that some Blogos might see a joke in this (I’ll just stuff cotton wool into my ears).

    N’ just a note..hugs re other blog. Youngest daughter has been a vego since birth (so it cannot be culture, must be ‘just her’) and so relating about vegetarian restaurants would not have fussed me in the slightest. Just thought to mention.

  65. My nights forecast,
    Zero visibility and i have to find structural damage.

    i have to tie myself to the pole and feel my way around(again shh Reb, Miglo)

    this will not end well, i feel i may get wet.

  66. “LOL!! You know that was actually very funny…”

    It was.

    “Is that you, Daddy??”

    Not unless you were born between 1979 and 1982 and are Canadian, English or Austrian James…I have this running thought that oneday someone will show up at the door and say exactly that…a seed sowed during travels by an impetious & too easily love struck young man who was promised by various young lasses that they were on the pill…but one can never be sure…tho condoms were generally part of the scene…tho I’ve heard plenty were leak sprung in those days.

    “Youngest daughter has been a vego since birth (so it cannot be culture, must be ‘just her’”

    That’s so cool Min…I have a cousin who’s exactly the same…a vego from birth…thnx for the kind thoughts…same back.

    as for me & my wife…well S’ was never a big meat eater…& always had a real fondness for animals, she turned vego the same year as me but is 11 years younger…I think she was 20 at the time, far more morally advanced at the time and mature than this ‘lost in space’ guy…so it’s been about 17 years for her & I.

    I’d actually shifted to the odd vege dinner before I met her whilst on the Pritikin diet back in the 80s…and tended to incorporate them into my fortnightly list of recipes…

    but the big change occurred the day I got a chicken claw stuck in my throat during YumCha w/ some Taiwanese students & their most gracious & concerned families. My life…& that of the chooks, raced thru my mind…& I suddenly thought…”if I survive this I’m giving up chewing on corpses”.

    I did…survive that is…& then put all fears aside and ate goat meat at a festival the next day…& promptly threw up. “an omen” I thought…”bad karma”…and from that day on (bar a couple of meals during the week of my emotional breakdown at the end of teaching) I have kept my desire to munch on the flesh of other beings at bay.

    The smell of cooking meat & fish literally makes me ill these days. Weird eh? Considering I was the type of kid who dived for the crusty bits on roasts…ate veal cutlets & every kind of sausage like it was going out of style…& coated his pizzas w/ salty carcass things even TB couldn’t identify…:)

    N’

  67. “this will not end well, i feel i may get wet.”

    I hope you’re wearing a wet suit. Wouldn’t want those fish nibbling where they shouldn’t.

    Keep safe aquanut.

    N’

  68. N’..well that’s something that I haven’t heard mentioned for a while. The Pritikin diet. We mostly stick to this, but hubby is a carnavore. And Indian and Italian lures me as well.

    Youngest is now 24yrs and I asked her not very long ago, Why wouldn’t you ever eat meat? She answered, Mum it’s the smell. But then of course she is Asperger’s and so has heightened senses.

  69. “But then of course she is Asperger’s and so has heightened senses.”

    Interesting Min….my wife reckons I have some characteristics of such. Seriously. It took me awhile to comprehend the extent of other peoples boundaries. And why people were so private & closed up. I was known for many years as being too intense & an open book that others could widdle on. And I tended to sit by myself & found many shouts, sounds & such overwhelming in the playground. That’s why I read so much…& the library became my fave place to go…or the cinema…except I had a tendency to like the sound of my own voice which can be problematic in those places…:) Always curious & seeking info…or imparting stuff.

    I think it was an expression of “nervous energy” & “pain” (had plenty of that, both physical & emotional…hard to express to others what the jolts of energy/electricity w/ minor Tourettes is like…the need to let the energy out in one way or another, excruciating sometimes). I was closed down however unless I was w/ those I was comfortable with. That changed over the years.

    But I still find it difficult to spend longer than a couple of hours outside of the house. Sitting in doctor’s offices, dentist offices, hairdressers for too long can make me wanna jump up and leave…sometimes I do, but just outside to get some air…or I get irritable & slightly argumentative & grumpy…it’s like the whole place is closing in on me…lights too bright…sounds like coughing, babies screaming becomes grating, acute…& facial gestures on people become exaggerated…similar to a panic attack…but more needing to close down the sensory overload.

    That’s why I drank so much grog in the past.

    Fortunately I’ve learnt plenty of meditative & breathing & diversion techniques that help…so does regular walking and contrary to popular media belief, so does taking the odd vitamin, mineral & flax seed oil w/ cashews, macademias & dried apricots.

    all is generally good now.

    N’

  70. Naskin..want to join the club? Yes, that’s it, trouble with boundaries. All pervasive interests (wave wave to certain persons). Plus SPD.

    A starter is at: http://autismaspergerssyndrome.suite101.com/article.cfm/aspergers_comorbid_conditions

    As per above, Tourette’s is Asperger’s cousin.

  71. “And Indian and Italian lures me as well.”

    Yum, yum, yum. My two favourites.

    We’re having chick pea & spinach in coconut curry sauce tomorrow w/ poppadums & chilli naan.

    And I’m going to make S’ a pizza w/ artichokes, chilli, parmesan, tomato paste, sundrieds, mushrooms, onion, homegrown oregano & mozarella for her birthday next week…served w/ Rosemary Focaccia & garden salad w/ olives, cherry tomatoes and drizzled w/ olive oil & balsamic.

    Gotta have Indian & Italian. My Dad was born in India…and I spent most of the time in my Mum’s uteris in Rome…obviously feeding on the delightful food she ate…became addicted…:)

    N’

  72. “Mum’s Uteris?”

    Is that some fancy Italian restaurant?

    I know the Italian’s like to call restaraunts “Mama’s” et cetera, but can’t say I’ve ever eaten at one called “Mama’s Uteris”.

    (Not sure I’d want to either for that matter…)

  73. Nasking..some wonderful stuff and I think that your wife is right. Your descriptions are classic Aspie. Now go and tell her so.

    You do realise that yer’on now. That whenever I need a vego recipe that you’re ‘it’.

  74. reb, that cracked me up something chronic…once I reread it the sentence about “uteris” was hilarious in the context you placed it.

    And the wooden spoon award goes to…:)

    N’…now a banana bender chomping on his banana

  75. “You do realise that yer’on now. That whenever I need a vego recipe that you’re ‘it’.”

    No problemo Min…I’ve got plenty at hand. The wife & I hope to do a vego recipe site w/ nice colured pics when she retires. Who knows, it might be all “touch & smell” virtual reality by then? I’ve been furiously scribbling them down & experimenting (does that leave Reb an opening?).

    Thnx for the link.

    Cheers
    N’

  76. Double dare N’. E won’t eat cheese, meat (except Maccas chicken nuggets, now try to explain that one to me), won’t eat cooked vegetables. She will however eat Vitabrits, home made plum jam, Heinz baked beans and is now venturing into Indian vegetarian.

    She isn’t keen on anything unless she has cooked it for herself.

  77. “except Maccas chicken nuggets, now try to explain that one to me”

    ’cause there’s probably no chicken in it…:)

    “She isn’t keen on anything unless she has cooked it for herself.”

    she’ll get over that I reckon…time has a way of wearing you down & getting over phobias. ‘specially when it’s a yummy meal from a lover & your stuffed…:)

    “She will however eat Vitabrits, home made plum jam, Heinz baked beans and is now venturing into Indian vegetarian.”

    I love all of those too…I wonder if she’d like sultanas &/or dried apricots in the curries?

    E might dig pumpkin & chick pea curry too…add Nando’s coconut curry sauce…

    & vege kofta balls w/ shredded cabbage, shredded zuchinni, carrot, onion, capsicum, sultanas. shredded potatoes cummin, ginger, garlic, chillies & chick pea flour…I like paneer w/ it but you said E doesn’t like cheese. Fry them up & have a nice tomato-based curry sauce w/ it.

    I’m getting hungry, time to head for the kitchen. Thnx for the chat Min et al.

    cheers
    N’

  78. N’…she’ll get over it!! She turns 25 this year!!!

  79. “she’ll get over it!! She turns 25 this year!!!”

    crikey…I thought you were talking about a teen. Hmmm…I guess it means less cooking for you. Does she have a partner?

    Have the Aspergers symptoms improved over the years?

    N’

  80. smegma………coz typing with a PS3 controller sux.

  81. Shane said “there have been many cases where the bone inside is australian and the meat wrapped around it was imported.”

    You’re not rattling on about those 8 inches again are you?

  82. Miglo i appolagise for my hurried convo. I have to admit i was drawing up my plans and grids. I wish i gave you more attention buddy.

    I didnt have my mind completely on the job either but i still did the job and then did it again too make sure i didnt have to give excuses later.

    What stood out tonight was how many crown of thorns star fish there is now. Very similar in behaviour as the white impoted starfish in southern australian waters that devour anything even (consume half there own body) themselves to survive.

  83. Finally finished now i can chat,………… where is everyone?
    I cant sleep i have to wait till my privates come back down from my throat, it was a cold night.

  84. Good for you aquanut.

    Why do you think there are so many crown of thorns star fish?

    Speaking of Crown of Thorns…one of my fave songs…

    (Mother Love Bone – Chloe Dancer/ Crown of Thorns)

    N’

  85. Not sure where to put this but some of you will recall me saying that I’m waiting for the insurance companies to surface re the economic crisis.

    Well…here’s the first.

    AXA has just posted its mid year LOSS and “reading between the lines” they are doing a lot of figure fudging to make it look better…as they do…

    http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,25069889-462,00.html

    Expect some more bad news before it gets better…

  86. Back again Nasking. Re Asperger’s improving over the years. As far as E goes I would say nope. E is an absolute treasure and I wouldn’t want her any other way. A pain in the derrier to try to feed and so I just have to accept her taking over the kitchen when she comes home (she is entering her final year of a PhD in molecular bioscience at UQ).

    Female Aspies tend to get away with a lot more than male Aspies and are allowed to be a bit nerdy and to have unusual pervasive interests however peer pressure usually comes down like a ton of bricks for male Aspies.

    Diagnosis is about 6:1 male and this is rarely picked up unless severe until later childhood, sometimes not until adulthood. There are also many misdiagnoses including ADHD and even hearing problems eg intermittent, partial hearing loss due to eustacian tube problem..ie ‘hears’ sometimes.

    An example of why it is often not picked up is firstly, it’s a recent addition to the Austism spectrum and as above mild and moderate Aspies often ‘unusual’ traits often go unnoticed until a child is older.

    Example courtesy of friend’s son who was diagnosed age 13. G said to me repeatedly, Min you have monkey toes. This was fine and a typically naive comment made by a 6 year old, but he was still saying it when he was 13.

  87. Aqua, I wish that I had known you were there..was awake at 4am this morning too.

  88. “Example courtesy of friend’s son who was diagnosed age 13. G said to me repeatedly, Min you have monkey toes. This was fine and a typically naive comment made by a 6 year old, but he was still saying it when he was 13.”

    Yes, vocalising the inappropriate…the mind becomes pressured to utter certain observations, the imagination runs wild…you see something and associate it w/ other, and rather than imagining the impact it may have on an individual, tho it might flash for a second in your mind’s eye…there exists an urgency, a need to release that information…it’s somewhat like a nervous tic.

    Min., it can take many years to learn to distract the mind, beat the obsession/compulsion…learn those necessary boundaries/social etiquette. Some do. Some don’t…some are partially successful at containing their outbursts. I guess it depends on training, therapy, the support of families, friends…& how often you put yourself in an awkward situation & pay the consequences…& hurt others in the process.

    Also depends on the tolerance of others around you…& the social setting. And the extent of the neurological & chemical damage/imbalance…perhaps we were intended to be this way even? Diversity of thinking leading to technological/social developments…& assisting the survival of the species.

    Empathy training helps.

    “E is an absolute treasure and I wouldn’t want her any other way.”

    Yer a good Mum to treasure uniqueness rather than identifying certain characteristics as negative. Our society needs to evolve and accomodate better those that do not fit into the dominant perspective of so called “normal”. We’re getting there. Provided we don’t get too many more authority figures who are determined to return the people to a bygone age riddled w/ mean-spirited & religiously bigoted characters, prejudice, intolerance & discrimination.

    No one is useless in this world who lightens the burden of it to anyone else.
    (Charles Dickens)

    N’

  89. So sorry to hear that things have got worse TB, not much you can do except what you’ve been doing I suppose. As for the sister(!) well what to say? I’ve been through a similar thing with my brother when my parents went downhill a year or so ago. Father had a severe stroke and mother went crazy a few months later with Korsakoff’s syndrome(from alcoholism) so had both of them in nursing homes and then suddenly “the brother who was never around” and has no money(or prospects) appears. Wants to be “involved” all f a sudden, especially when it came to EPA type things – sleezebag. I ended up giving him a few thousand to “help him out” and surprise surprise he’s once again “never around”. (best money I ever spent!)

    Anyway, I do feel for you and watch out for the sister!

  90. Yes Nasking, that’s it. An excellent description Nas..

    Or on the other hand instead of trying to beat the obsession/compulsion one can redirect it.

    Agreed, the boundaries and the etiquette can be the most difficult thing for Aspies. Examples, knowing how to respond to ‘trivia’, that is small talk. How to start a conversation, how to end one. Knowing what is ‘bloke talk’.

    Also, it’s important to concentrate on the positives. A truer friend one can never have, honest forthright, big probs telling fibs. Too jolly forthright at times, but at least you know where you stand with an Aspie.

    Tony Attwood is a world leader and is worth a look:
    http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/ Especially the interview link at the bottom of the opening page. The first part of the interview deals with children but persevere because a lot of it is about adults.

    Also Temple Grandin is a very famous Aspie: http://www.grandin.com/inc/visual.thinking.html – this one giving due regard to the fact that this is a spectrum and she is spacial whereas my children 1 & 3 are verbal, son is another kettle of fish…

    Re improvements, yes remarkably so for son. School was the worst thing for him due to all the intrigue and subtle things such as eye-rolling from teachers. Many Aspies are considered ‘insolent’ as the non-verbal cues do not compute. He learnt to smile for the camera when he was 23yrs old (a previous girlfriend taught him). Previously he couldn’t as it wasn’t possible for him to physically show feelings that he didn’t feel.

  91. “Re improvements, yes remarkably so for son.”

    That’s wonderful Min.

    Thanks for the links.

    N’

  92. Hoping that you might clock in Nasking. Hugs. Min.

  93. “Hoping that you might clock in Nasking. Hugs. Min.”

    Same back Min. Thought I better get onto some of my duties…gotta keep my sweety happy. Done now. Until she gets home. I always have an half hour comedy show recorded for her…and a cup of herbal tea…usually one of the following:

    Celestial Seasonings: Lemon Zinger
    Celestial Seasonings: Tension Tamer (great for those super tense days..it really works)
    Lipton: Cranberry, Rasberry & Strawberry

    And occasionally we might have a English or Irish Breakfast tea. Always on the weekend…they hit the spot w/ weegend brekky.

    Thnx for the chat/discussion.

    Don’t forget to try out that pumpkin & chick pea curry w/ Nandos curry sauce…it’s one of my faves…get lots of energy from it. You can fry up some leek, chilli & diced zuchinni as a base.

    Cheers
    N’

  94. i waited to see if i remember much more about the crown of thorns starfish. That white starfish down south is the one as a country need to worry about. i may have gotten some information mixed up between the two.

  95. “The gods must be crazy”. 28 year old movie and i still find it funny and enjoyable.

  96. “The gods must be crazy”. 28 year old movie and i still find it funny and enjoyable.

    Simple but effective. Low budget too. $5 million. In 1980. Tho I guess that’d be about 30 million now. Mebbe someone else can work that out.

    Here’s some disturbing news about the main actor:

    Despite the fact that the film grossed over $31 million worldwide, Nixau reportedly earned less than $1000 for his staring role.
    (Wiki pedia)

    Exploitation just goes on & on.

    it was quite an ad for a certain soft drink company too…sigh.
    N’

  97. Thats sad, but sounds about right.

    Im watching Dune next. just dont tell me the worms are now extinct.

  98. Aqua/Nasking,

    Just watched Outlander. Not a bad sci-fi movie starring John Hurt. One of the better sci-fi movies I’ve watched lately.

    Will be sitting down to watch the 2008 version of The Day The Earth Stood Still over the weekend. Will report my critique.

  99. Biggest loser, im watching it now and just wondered.
    First congratulations on whatever makes people feel good to loose wieght as is a life changing experience.

    But who helps them deal with what the show dose to them during that time, it really dose look like abuse and humiliation. I should watch more before making such a strong statement against them i guess.

  100. Miglo,
    I remember Reb said he was watching it about a month or so back and i was so jealous, i’d really like to know if its worth watching. i still havnt seen the original so i better start there.

  101. Aqua, nothing could be as good as the original. IMO the 1951 version of The Day The Earth Stood Still sits up at the top of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made.

    The reviews of the remake aren’t very kind, but maybe it is being compared to the original instead of a stand alone.

    I’m only watching it out of curiosity.

    I saw a documentary on the making of the original. It was made at the height of the reds under the beds scare, and at a time when people actually believed that an invasion from Mars was possible.

    There’s a line in the movie where Michael Rennie said that he wasn’t from Mars, but a planet much further away, some 50 million miles from Earth. We now know that Mars itself is much, much further from us than that.

    So it was made at a time when our knoweldge of our own little spot in the universe was somewhat limited. The main point though, is the concern that someone out there was close enough to launch an invasion.

    I’ll keep going: over a 100 years ago astronomers had noticed lights on Venus. It was suggested that the lights were caused by wild celebrations over the coronation of a new king!

    There’s more: sometime in the mid 19th century the New York Times reported that large telescopes had spotted herds of bison roaming on the moon.

    Meanwhile, I’m still looking for Elvis.

  102. “Im watching Dune next. just dont tell me the worms are now extinct.”

    lol…the mini-series or the original by David Lynch?

    I enjoyed both…thought Kyle MacLachlan as Paul Atreides did a fabulous job in Lynch’s version…but the film has its flaws. Considering the complexity of the storyline I reckon Lynch & his crew did a half-decent job.

    Perhaps we should grow giant sandworms in our desert areas?…& use them for transport…:)

    We certainly need to be recycling our piss & sweat.

    N’

  103. i was waiting for the philadelphia experiment to be mentioned.

    i got the giggles now.

  104. “Just watched Outlander. Not a bad sci-fi movie starring John Hurt. One of the better sci-fi movies I’ve watched lately.”

    Cool, thnx for the heads up Miglo…I’ll keep an eye out for it.

    “nothing could be as good as the original. IMO the 1951 version of The Day The Earth Stood Still sits up at the top of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made.”

    I agree…but I’m looking forward to seeing this new version. I love both the 1951 & 1982 versions of The Thing.

    This is fun:

    Dune Trailer Remastered

    N’

  105. Its the movie of dune.

    I thought outlander had sean connery in it
    based in space ,very old (sci fi)

  106. “i was waiting for the philadelphia experiment to be mentioned.”

    hehe…I enjoyed that movie years ago.

    Thought this was interesting:

    Alien life ‘may exist among us’
    By James Morgan
    Science reporter, BBC News, Chicago

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7893414.stm

    You might see some downbelow aquanut…:)
    Any stories to tell?

    N’

  107. Nasking, John Carpenter’s The Thing scared the living shits out of me.

    Jedda’s out of town tonight and I have to sleep alone. That’s if I get any bloody sleep now no thanks to you.

    I was briefly thinking of chucking the dogs on the bed to protect me while I try to sleep, but then I remembered what happened to those dogs in The Thing.

    I’ll never trust an alien again.

  108. when i feel like killing what little credibility i have i just might give some stories, but not of aliens.

  109. “thought outlander had sean connery in it”

    That was ‘Outland’..good flick…exploding heads in space, frightening…:)

    N’

  110. outland, i see now why it confused me a little

  111. “John Carpenter’s The Thing scared the living shits out of me.

    Me too Miglo…saw it in a Sydney cinema & went home on the train…kept thinking the people next to me were gonna explode outwards into gruesome beings. Horrible ride…:)

    Know what you mean about the dogs…lol.

    Another old fave of mine is ‘Forbidden Planet’. The psyche-born thing banging on the titanium doors freaked me out as a kid…kinda like the ghosts banging on the ladies door in The Haunting.

    N’

  112. “when i feel like killing what little credibility i have i just might give some stories, but not of aliens.”

    lol…you seem pretty credible to me. Amazed at the amount of veges you have in yer garden. Good stuff.

    I’ve seen a ball of light from a hospital window that did a long, strange dance over the city of Toronto. And another over the trees when I was out w/ the Scouts in the wilderness. Was pretty eerie.
    N’

  113. All I can remember from the Forbidden Planet is that hot little piece in a mini skirt.

  114. UFOs and Bigfoot are two of my favourite subjects. Call me a crackpot if you must.

    The Australian Yowie interests me as well, however the word yowie is a white man’s construct. Local Aborigines call them Dooligah.

  115. “All I can remember from the Forbidden Planet is that hot little piece in a mini skirt.”

    Haha, indeed…I remember getting all kinds of crushes on film & TV lasses w/ mini-skirts as a youngun. Dr. Who was a fave show as a lad…:)

    Wonder what happened to UFO? Haven’t seen it on PayTV or elsewhere. Probably looks hilarious now. Space 1999 was good too.

    N’

  116. I can remember waiting 4 hours in line as a teenager to see a movie about Bigfoot…aka Sasquatch & Nessy. It sucked.

    “Call me a crackpot if you must.”

    Nah, look at how many people believe in Messiahs & the bible…at least there’s some shots & pics & footprints that may or may not be these creatures. Any interesting research done you’ve found?

    N’

  117. My all-time favourite space character was Dr Smith from Lost in Space, played by Jonathon Harris. He was a stunning actor, who made the rest of the cast look like mere amateurs.

  118. Well Miglo im not far from kilcoy, home of the yowie. has a statue. (where they hoping the really yowie would mount it)

    there is reports of a dinosaur creature in the blue mountains also in the north territory. NT reports are by aboriginals with little contact to the outside world.

    true or not. i just read the stories most of the time. some stand out, if by an imaginative person or fact.

  119. Yes nasking, I have done a wee bit of research, which has mostly been confined to Aboriginal witnesses and Aboriginal legends.

    There’s an Aboriginal community in South Australia that borders a large expanse of sand dunes. One fellow was telling me that as a boy he saw one in his auntie’s kitchen, thrashing around looking for food.

    The next day I asked this guy’s uncle – who was one of the elders of the community – what he knew of these beasts. He replied that he’d never seen one, but acknowledged that the old people in the community leave food for them at the edge of the dunes.

    The older Aboriginal people around Bateman’s Bay talk of them regularly. I did a web search and noted that there have been numerous recent sightings recorded down there.

  120. “true or not. i just read the stories most of the time. some stand out, if by an imaginative person or fact.” (Aqua).

    Sometimes old buddy the fakers get the most publicity. However, I do trust the word of an Aboriginal elder so I tend to listen to them the most.

    One thing I have found with Aboriginal elders who live the old custom as much they can, is that they never, never, never lie.

    Most of the lies can be found in the daily tabloids. The true stories never make it.

  121. “I’ve seen a ball of light from a hospital window that did a long, strange dance over the city of Toronto.”

    Nasking, it wasn’t orange in colour by any chance?

  122. Miglo about the elders, my first experience(but not personal) was the chambiline case. The elder spoke his mind and as confusing as his words were somtimes he knew by tracking what took place. I imagine he was told to shut up too. but he stood his ground on what he first said. it would of been easy to sell out.

  123. Good point Aqua. Another thing I found is that they won’t tolerate any bullshit.

  124. “it wasn’t orange in colour by any chance?”

    Happened about 35 years ago now Miglo…hard to remember. I think the hospital one was yellowish…darted this way & that…then would head in a straight line…abruprtly stop…hover…went on for at least 10 minutes…then suddenly it speeded off & disappeared in a flash. Was quite bizarre.

    The other was like a gas light…but large in comparison to the top of the trees…travelled slowly.

    N’

  125. “Most of the lies can be found in the daily tabloids. The true stories never make it.”

    I’d have to agree w/ that assessment. There are some strange things out there. Sometimes I wonder if our TV & movie soaked eyes are no longer about to see them…as if our eyes have gotten used to certain frames per second & such. I remember learning that a Papua New Guinean tribe (I think it was) was shown their first film and they didn’t initially see anything. Not sure if it’s an urban myth.

    N’

  126. “no longer about to see them”

    make that “able to see them”

    N’

  127. Nasking, here are some over the top things id like to share.

    cats see more by staring at one object then we do scanning.

    so with that example i would like to move to the mongoose, it uses eye shutter speed. it moves its retenour so fast thatit slows thigs down, we do a similar thing when we panic or very well trained.
    (Time seemed to slow down)

    one of the easiest ways of training the imaginary side of the brain is to look at an object upside down for a period of time.

    Im sure other people know some tricks. hope that was a little helpful.

  128. Aqua, one of the easiest ways of training the imaginary side of the brain is to look at an object upside down for a period of time.

    So how do I get my car upside down? 🙂

    Jokes aside, you guys are on it re eye development.

    Reading skills require rhythmic, co-ordinated eye movements and watching TV focuses the eye on a single area, so for young children, the eye development is not happening.

    Television and Child Development by Marita Huxholl

    …Television addresses only a limited area of cerebral functioning. Brain waves produced during TV viewing are primarily Alpha waves – those occurring otherwise in sleep. This leads to a trance-like state so that the brain receives information without any conscious
    analysis or selective association. The sleep like state of Alpha brain waves produces poor concentration.

    TV viewing prolongs dependency on the right hemisphere. As the brain develops children shift from a nonverbal ‘right’ hemisphere, dreaming consciousness, to a verbal, logical ‘left’ hemisphere. Many skills necessary for reading, e.g. analysis, auditory association, phonics, symbol recognition and handwriting, are associated with the left hemisphere. Children who are slow to read are frequently one-sided in their development and TV viewing can increase this imbalance.

    N’
    Sometimes I wonder if our TV & movie soaked eyes are no longer about to see them…as if our eyes have gotten used to certain frames per second & such.

    How right you are nas, that’s what the article says too, although it is talking of child development.

    Images created on the TV screen are composed of 625 lines, with 800 dots appearing 25 times per second. This puts a considerable strain on the brain and the eyes,
    especially of young children whose eye muscles are still maturing until about 7 years of age. Programs on TV are consciously created with several cuts per minute. Rapid
    changes of content, new visual perspectives are commercial tricks designed to hold attention, but what do they do for our eyes and attention span?

    The author’s recommendations?
    Firstly, throw away the TV’s if you can.

  129. “one of the easiest ways of training the imaginary side of the brain is to look at an object upside down for a period of time.”

    eek! my blood pressure…:)

    Interesting stuff aquanut.

    “So how do I get my car upside down? ”

    Use Arnie Swarz, he’ll be lookin’ for a job real soon the way things are going in Kal ee fornicationia.

    “Children who are slow to read are frequently one-sided in their development and TV viewing can increase this imbalance.”

    Interesting info kittylitter…my family got me reading early & playing Scrabble…so once I got the TV addiction at about 8 or 9 I was already reading at a frantic pace. But I have noticed plenty of young parents sitting their kids down in front of the TV during parties/barbees & such and using it as a child-minder.

    We’ve bought both our nephews the May Gibbs books from the original home she wrote in. Just hope they don’t become table balancers.

    (From Wiki pedia)
    May Gibbs died in 1969, but her legacy to children lives on. May bequeathed the copyright from the designs of her bush characters and her stories to Northcott Disabiity Services (formerly The NSW Society for Crippled Children) and The Spastic Centre of NSW. Through her foresight, May Gibbs has helped the charities assist thousands of children with disabilities and their families throughout NSW. For more information on usage of May Gibbs’ works and copyright please contact Lucy Brown at Northcott Disability Services on +61 (0)2 9890 0100.
    ———-

    “The author’s recommendations?
    Firstly, throw away the TV’s if you can.”

    hehe…I reckon plenty of kids would be throwing themselves on top of the TV if they heard that…

    N’

  130. # “So how do I get my car upside down? ”
    lol use a picture. poor car.

    # hehe…I reckon plenty of kids would be throwing themselves on top of the TV if they heard that…

    they will kill you if you touch there computers(children of the corn)

  131. Thanks Kitty, Just one question took my bad mood and had me smiling.

  132. When i was young i had to do things like jump out of a hole without bending the knees, so i remember the years of translation from one martial art move back to why an animal used the method. (back then, booooring)

    Also how you take in information, most of it is made into fun and games when your a child. when you meet someone that wants to teach and not muck around it can be hell if your not on the same page. I took a lot of shit from my instructor and he son.

  133. Hang on, i started that comment with a message.
    Boy did that get lost.

  134. I would like to extend a kind thanks to our state government for hiring 9( i think) new ambulance staff to a growing state.

    longer ques to get into the hospital.

    I say we triple the nurse wages without them it seems our hospitals would just stop.

    (I guess 9 or so is better then nothing.)

  135. One more useless point.

    Why at the begining of Day of the dead dose it warn veiws that this movie is based on true events.

    Of all the things in life this is my thoughts. days off dont suit me.

    Time to go for a walk.

  136. Dose anybody have Adrain’s Email to find out if he is ok.
    Its been to long.

  137. “I say we triple the nurse wages without them it seems our hospitals would just stop.”

    aqualung, they are indeed the BEDROCK.

    N’

  138. “Why at the begining of Day of the dead dose it warn veiws that this movie is based on true events?”

    Heightens your emotional input. A hook into the film.

    If this is the original Romero film you might find this interesting:

    Director George A. Romero describes the film as a “tragedy about how a lack of human communication causes chaos and collapse even in this small little pie slice of society”.

    Filming took place in the fall of 1984 at locations in Pennsylvania and Florida. All above ground scenes were filmed at seveal locations around Florida, where Romero was living at the time. Underground scenes were filmed in a former mine shaft located near Wampum, Pennsylvania, which had been converted into a long-term storage facility for important documents. Though the mine maintained a constant temperature of about 50 F, its high humidity played havoc with the crew’s equipment and props. Mechanical and electrical failures were a constant problem throughout filming, and caused several of special effects leader Tom Savini’s props to fail during the filming of crutial scenes. The remote location also complicated the transportation of crew members and equipment. “Zombie” extras were recruted from among the citizens of Pittsburgh, with preference given to those who had worked on previous Romero films. Extras were paid $1.00 for their services, and given a hat that read “I was a Zombie in Day of the Dead”.

    Almost two decades later, a follow-up to Day of the Dead titled Land of the Dead was released, expanding upon themes about the undeads’ recollection of past memories and lifestyles and humankind’s present day frame of mind when confronted with crisis.
    (Wiki pedia)

    Cheers…
    N’

  139. I enjoyed reading that after watching the movie. There are a lot of zombie movies now with such a little story line is only about how much gore they can fill in an hour or so..
    lol, a dollar and a hat(now pee off).

  140. “lol, a dollar and a hat(now pee off).”

    🙂

    N’

  141. Nasking i got this email yesterday from my sister saying,
    You got to go see gran torino, its you without the wrinkles. now i have to watch the movie to see if she was having a go at me.

  142. aquanut, that’s inspired me to read renniek’s review on it. I had a good mate out country QLD who was similar…tough as old boots, carnivore, didn’t tolerate much crap from people, could get a bit grouchy at times…but if anyone screwed w/ the people he cared about he’d give then what for. A good heart & fair to boot underneath the gruff exterior. Great to sit down w/ and have a beer or twelve…he could tell a mean story…I learnt more about QLD history from him than most of the books I’ve read.

    My wife’s Dad is similar. Tho quieter. But grows the best pumpkins, cucumbers & potatoes in Sth East QLD…:)

    N’

  143. I love Romero’s zombie films, although I wasn’t real big on the large budgeted Land of The Dead.

    I reckon he’s making one at the moment called Isle of The Dead (a bit of info @ wiki about it) so I’m looking forward to that.

    Recently watched Diary of The Dead on DVD & thought that it was pretty cool, back to his low budget best.
    Love the Apocalyptic scenarios he throws up, great stuff.

  144. Miglo, on February 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm Said:
    My all-time favourite space character was Dr Smith from Lost in Space, played by Jonathon Harris. He was a stunning actor, who made the rest of the cast look like mere amateurs.

    And so they were. Zorro and a couple of kids. June Lockhart was an experienced actress but was given crappy lines.

  145. just dont watch army of the dead(new release, it is so pethetic it makes you wonder what drugs they were playing with.

    ———————————

    When i was paying for a pie last night the bloke looks at my wrist and smiles,looks at my throat , rough misses he askes?

    rope burns from the job the other day it looks more like a desease then a bruise

  146. Allo allo. Aqua!! I haven’t received the promised email but I should imagine that you’re working on how to get it out from the never-never world where drafts often disappear to.

  147. WTF are you people doing still here by the water cooler?????!!!!!!! No wonder no bloody work ever gets done in this place, it’s Friday afternoon and you punks are still discussing what you did over the weekend!!! Now get to the Frolyks thread FFS!

  148. “I love Romero’s zombie films, although I wasn’t real big on the large budgeted Land of The Dead.””

    Interesting Toiletboss, I thought it was pretty good. I kept wishing it was John Howard or GW Bush or Dick Cheney or Rupie playing the character that Dennis Hopper did…:)

    Thought this was interesting:

    Romero was born in New York City to a Cuban-American father and a Lithuanian-American mother
    (Wiki pedia)

    I really dug the remake of Dawn of the Dead that came out about the same time…directed by Zack Snyder…who also did a half-decent job w/ 300 (Spartans at Thermpoylae thing). He’s now directing Watchmen.

    Cheers
    N’

  149. Min i will type another, when i get back from the cinema tonight.

    I really wanted that other one as i put a good effort in explaining things.(cries)

    (off the meds) I also feel all over the place and still have the im at someone elses house feeling in my gut. but its lasting a couple of hours now instead of all day. I feel i will beat this, well i have to say that or why bother tying.

  150. “WTF are you people doing still here by the water cooler?????!!!!!!!

    They musta put some addictive stuff in the water…:)

    Guess we should move over to the other thread…TGIF and all.

    N’

  151. Aqua..just when ever you can. Now off you choof and have a lovely evening!!!

  152. lol James.

    ..(picks up a pen and folder to look busy)

  153. “June Lockhart was an experienced actress but was given crappy lines.”

    True Min. I couldn’t believe how corny & stereotypical her lines were last time I watched it.

    I agree too Miglo, Jonathan Harris as Dr. Smith was far and away the best actor…tho I have a soft spot for the Robot.

    N’

  154. “tho I have a soft spot for the Robot. ”

    A fantastic actor, the facial expressions, demeanour – this guy carried the show.

  155. “Jonathon Harris” – what a great name.

  156. “A fantastic actor, the facial expressions, demeanour – this guy carried the show.”

    Had a real grip on the part.

    N’

  157. Named after him???

  158. The remake of Dawn of the Dead was bitchin’

    I was very disappointed with Dairy of the Dead though, utter shite.

    28 Days Later (and 28 Weeks Later) are also top Zombie flicks in my (not so) humble opinion…

  159. Not quite… but very close.

    Oh the pain, the pain (in my shoulder).

  160. And joni..how is the shoulder?

  161. Physio says that it is coming along very nicely, but it is still very sore and movement is very restricted.

    But for just on two months from the operation it is branging (deliberate) the expected benefits.

  162. reb, haven’t seen Dairy of the Dead…think I’ll skip it.

    “28 Days Later (and 28 Weeks Later) are also top Zombie flicks in my (not so) humble opinion…”

    fck yea! I’ve seen both numerous times. That sequence at the beginning of 28 Weeks Later when Robert Carlyle does the cowardly/survival thing, racing off towards the wee boat, abandoning his wife & kid…kick arse…I kept thinking “you louse…GO…”…talk about mixed emotions.

    N’

  163. “Physio says that it is coming along very nicely, but it is still very sore and movement is very restricted.”

    Good to hear your on the mend joni. Any opiates provided by the doc?…you’d think there’d be plenty available these days, what w/ that crazy conflict in جمهوری اسلامی افغانستان
    🙂

  164. No really good opiates. Just Naprosyn, but my dreams lately have been very vivid.

  165. Nasking,

    That opening sequence was brilliant!! I watched it in the cinema and I swear with the pounding surround sound system and the onscreen action I nearly gauged holes in the seat with my fingernails!!

  166. The helicopter – decapitation scene was also particularly memorable.

  167. “That opening sequence was brilliant!! I watched it in the cinema”

    I’m envious reb…tho darn seats do havoc to my back these days. Tho I did have a great quality DVD, big tele & sound system jacked way up…got caught right up in it. Felt so relieved when he started rowing away. Brilliant hand-held camerawork, use of music & sound effects…not to mention choreography.
    N’

  168. Yeah, it was bloody brilliant watching him run across the lawn to the dinghy while the infected chased after him..

    I was on the edge of my seat!!

  169. Have you seen The Myst?

    That’s also a good dark horror flick…

  170. Never fear, Daffy’s here.

  171. For 28 Weeks Later the director was Juan Carlos Fresnadillo an Academy Award-nominated Spanish director & script writer. He also directed Intacto.

    The editing by Chris Gill was amazing too. Mayhem unleashed.

    Here’s the theme song:

    John Murphy composed the music:

    John Murphy (born 1965) is a British film composer. He is a self taught multi-instrumental musician who began his career in the 1980s working notably with The Lotus Eaters, Thomas Lang and Claudia Brücken.

    Born in Liverpool, England, Murphy began composing music for films in the early 1990s and scored his first hit with Leon the Pig Farmer. Together with former OMD member David Hughes he worked on several successful British movies, enjoying particular success with the soundtrack to 1998’s Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

    Since 2000’s Snatch and Shooters, Murphy has been mainly based in Los Angeles. He has produced several prominent and diverse successes, including City by the Sea and Danny Boyle’s box-office success 28 Days Later and its sequel 28 Weeks Later. He also collaborated with Underworld to score Danny Boyle’s science fiction film Sunshine. In 2006 Murphy composed the score for Michael Mann’s Miami Vice.
    (Wiki pedia)

    some great films there. Good old ‘Leon the Pig Farmer’…good for a chuckle.

    Tho my fave Brit comedy is Withnail & I.
    N’

  172. Speaking of Zombie flick, Shaun of the Dead has to be right up as well (although a spoof rather than the seriousness of 28 Days later).

    I do like the Resident Evil movies as well although that could be because of Milla 😉

  173. “Have you seen The Myst?”

    You mean ‘The Mist’?

    yea, pretty cool. Weird, doomy ending eh?
    N’

  174. “reb, haven’t seen Dairy of the Dead…think I’ll skip it. ”

    Don’t you like the sight of all those murdered cows and spilt milk?

  175. The Mist had the worst ending of any movie ever made. (They should have stuck to the ending King usde in the book). The ending ‘deflated’ the whole movie. I actually felt as though my time had been robbed.

  176. The Mist is from a Stephen King Short Story/ Novel. I can’t remember the ending in the book but yeah, the one if the movie is gut wrenching. I rember thinking the book had more suspense though.

  177. Oh yeah! I only watched 28 Weeks later a week or so ago. Awesome! Love the nihilistic carnage & the US army doing what it does best & just liquidating anything that moves, regardless of guilt or innocence.
    Great movie.
    Loved 28 Days Later too.

    Also thought that the remake of Dawn of the Dead was excellent, even if they took a bit of license & made the dead run. The start, where she goes to sleep & wakes up to a world gone insane, gets me blood pumpin’.
    I always thought that it wasn’t well liked by Romero purists.

    Robert Carlyle is always good to watch. Who can forget his lovable Begby character in Trainspotting?

  178. Shaun of The Dead…classic pisstake.

    Romero had the 2 guys from SOTD in Land of The Dead as cameo zombies.

  179. “They should have stuck to the ending King usde in the book.”

    Agree Miglo. Tho the ending was kinda weird & eerie…bit of a letdown tho. That bunch of Evango freaks gave me the creeps. Religious superstition can run rampant & loopy in panic situations…I worry for Obama.

    Man, I spent many teen & early 20s years putting together a horror & sci-fi novel collection…and wasn’t Stephen King one of the best? Great for travelling to work on train or bus. The Stand, The Shining, Salem’s Lot, Pet Semetary & IT were my faves.

    N’

  180. “Robert Carlyle is always good to watch. Who can forget his lovable Begby character in Trainspotting?”

    Brilliant. One of my fave films. It moves. That scene going down the toilet…ace!

    The worst toilet in Scotland leading to…
    N’

  181. The book Salem’s Lot is one of my old favourites! the remake of the movie with Rob Lowe (shudder) was quite faithful to the book & I thought it was done well.
    Sutherland & Hauer are good as evil doers, Straker & Barlow respectively.

    Danny Glick floating outside the window asking for permission to enter the house, iconic.

  182. why r the movies of stephen king novels always shite tho? Except the shining.

  183. Yep Trainspotting is right up there. I’ve read a few of the books by Trainspotting’s author (the name escapes me at the moment) & they were interesting.

    Love that scene where Sickboy shoots the dog with an air-rifle & it immediately attacks the guy in the park who’s playing with it.
    Lots to like about the whole movie.

  184. Reb what about Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile.

  185. TBoss, here’s the Trainspotting (trailer)

    BTW, you still haven’t told me what Buffalo Lodge stands for.

    N’

  186. It’s where I live, you may remember me as Human Dividend.

    It’s not some weird play on words, I actually live in an old Hall built by the Royal Australian Order Of The Buffalo.

  187. Reb et al, these are my favourite King stories turned into film & TV:

    1976 Carrie
    1980 The Shining
    1983 The Dead Zone
    1984 Firestarter
    1985 Silver Bullet (based on Cycle of the Werewolf)
    1986 Stand By Me (based on “The Body”, novella from Different Seasons)
    1987 The Running Man (novel written as Richard Bachman)
    1990 Misery
    1994 The Shawshank Redemption (novella “Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption” from Different Seasons)
    1999 The Green Mile
    2001 Hearts in Atlantis (Adapted Low Men In Yellow Coats, the first part)
    2007 1408 (based on the short story from Everything’s Eventual)
    2007 The Mist (novella from Skeleton Crew)

    Television
    1991 Sometimes They Come Back (short story from Night Shift)
    1994 The Stand (TV miniseries)
    1995 The Langoliers (TV miniseries based on novella from Four Past Midnight)
    2002 Rose Red (original TV miniseries)
    2002 The Dead Zone (TV Series)
    (used Wiki pedia)

    “what about Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile.”

    Superb Min.
    N’

  188. “It’s not some weird play on words, I actually live in an old Hall built by the Royal Australian Order Of The Buffalo.”

    how cool.

    BTW, I kinda thought you were HD. Some great posts over at Blogocracy.

    and here under the new moniker.
    N’

  189. I had the Cycle of The Werewolf graphic novel many years ago. Loved it. Brutal lycanthropy with a priestly twist.
    The gory artwork inspired my own horrific illustrations over the years.

    I vaguely remember watching Silver Bullet (Corey Feldman?). From memory it wasn’t too badly done.

  190. I did occasionally invade Surfdom as Toiletboss but due to the high quality of input from posters such as kennel, sean & others I was left with little to say.

    Good to see ken_L here every now & again. One of my favourite bloggers, he makes a lot of sense & is intellectually scathing in a hilarious way, has a great turn of phrase…the RWDB’s hate him.

  191. “I did occasionally invade Surfdom as Toiletboss:

    I think I remember that site…:)

    Yes, you were certainly passionate. Nothing wrong w/ that.

    “The gory artwork inspired my own horrific illustrations over the years.”

    Got any examples on site?

    N’

  192. “Good to see ken_L here every now & again. ”

    He’s a pretty smart guy w/ lots of words of wisdom. We differ on the ABC TV…as in privatisation of such…& a few other topics…but he has a good heart & gave the RWDBs what for when it came to the war & plenty of other Bushevik/Howeirdian policies that demonstrated their incompetence, greed & intolerance. Bit of a maverick, which is good.

    N’

  193. Nasking

    “the Longoliers” is that the one where everyone disappeared at the airport, or something like that?

    I think I saw that ages ago, a kind of made for TV movie but quite an interesting movie nevertheless..

  194. “I think I saw that ages ago, a kind of made for TV movie but quite an interesting movie nevertheless..”

    For sure. I wasn’t expecting much…but it got quite intense for a made for TV movie.

    I dreamt for days about that swarm of little munchers coming towards my house.

    N’

  195. BTW Nasking,

    Just picked up a copy of “Resident Evil – Degeneration” on DVD for tonite’s viewing.

    This is the animated sequel to the first two Resident Evil flicks which were also good zombie fare.

  196. “Just picked up a copy of “Resident Evil – Degeneration” on DVD for tonite’s viewing.”

    Cool reb…I’ve got Resident Evil Extinction on DVD to watch. I thought the first was brill. Let me know what you think of “Degeneration”.
    N’

  197. Will do Nasking.

    I really enjoyed Extinction. I’m sure you won’t be disappointed.

    There’s just not enough mindless death and destruction on TV these days for my liking.

    I was just explaining to a friend of mind the other day, that if nobody’s died a gruesome, horrible death within the first five minutes, then a movie isn’t really worth watching.

  198. “I was just explaining to a friend of mind the other day, that if nobody’s died a gruesome, horrible death within the first five minutes, then a movie isn’t really worth watching.”

    lol. I’m big on gangster films too…that beginning scene in ‘The Goodfellas’ is something eh? Wouldn’t ya luv to have Joe Pesci’s character around for a drink…:)
    N’

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