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Reports are saying that six countries that make up the International Whaling Commission drafting group, which includes Australia, have proposed that Japan can kill more whales in the North Pacific as long as they kill less in the Southern Ocean.

Japanese whalers could hunt a regulated number of minke whales in its coastal waters, and take many more whales in the North Pacific, under the plan.

In exchange Japan would agree to one of two offers: either to phase out scientific whaling in the Antarctic entirely, or to impose an annual Southern Ocean limit.

Well, that’s OK then? Um…. no it’s not. Is this just another example of the pragmatism of the Rudd government?

Not happy, Kevin.

Here is a video that scaper found on the slaughter of the whales.


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  1. I believe this is actually the six countries in question trying to look like they have some control over the matter. They won’t police the rules as they stand (leaving it to “extremist groups” to cover their failures in that regard) – so they are trying to change the rules and get a little “nod nod wink wink” from Japan.

    In other words, they are saying to the world “Look, we have trained our cat to do what we tell it to do. Watch…. ignore me. See, perfect obedience”. Their proposal is simply justifying the fact that Japan keeps snubbing their “rulings” and they are too weak to do something REAL about it.

  2. LOL, I like the trained cat analogy.

  3. I personally think that if we are able to get Japan to agree to anything, then we will be jolly lucky. Swapping the endangered humpback and southern minke for the less endangered northern minke sounds to be desperation/frustration with the Japanese.

    But of course if we send the navy after them (which wasn’t the navy but reported as such) then we will have Turnbull screaming blue murder about endangering the Australia/Japan alliance.

  4. This article provides a good background.


    “The anti-whaling bloc would be likely to insist that scientific whaling – under which Japan currently hunts – would be banned, that greater areas of ocean be set aside as whale sanctuaries, that existing sanctuaries be respected, that international observers monitor hunts, that DNA registries of whalemeat be set up, that international trade be banned, and – above all – that the overall number of whales being hunted falls significantly and permanently.

    The pro-whaling position is a bit more complicated. Japan, which attracts most of the attention, has long asked that its coastal fleets be allowed to hunt commercially, with sustainable quotas; but Norway, which hunts similar numbers to Japan in openly commercial fashion, has little to gain from any change of rules. ”

    Norway might be a bigger problem than Japan.

  5. As I understand it, Norway ignores the rules anyway as they are not bound by the moratorium the rest of the world agrees to.

    That, and they hunt the (non-endangered) minke whale almost exclusively (unlike Japan).

  6. Of interest is that Norway attempted to export whale meat to Japan but this was refused with the excuse being that minke whale meat from the northern hemisphere would be too polluted.

  7. Ah, the Japanese and their whaling. Go figure.

    They used to fill an annual quota of Chinese and Koreans too, but I doubt they’d try doing that these days. It seems to have gone out of fashion for some reason.

    Maybe whaling will too. Eventually.

  8. I’d be grateful if the Japanese engaged in a little similar research on sharks.

    Scientific only of course, and not (quite) to the edge of extinction.

  9. I hope that clip finally raised your awareness of the brutality of these people.

    This not civilised behaviour in my opinion…dolphins are one of the most peaceful and intelligent mammals on the planet…they don’t war or ill treat their own unlike us savages!!!

  10. The Japanese should get off the whale meat and try dog. Much tastier apparently

    http://www.2kat.net/itstheirdestiny/Vietnam.html. (Not suitable for minors.)

  11. I believe horse is more the go in Japan N5.


  12. No surprise whatsoever as the opposition shadow environment minister has accused the Australian government being at the very heart of allowing commercial whaling to be resumed.

    Absolute bullshit of course, but when has that ever stopped this opposition for putting a false premise out there on the government in the hope enough idiots will believe it.

  13. Scaper:

    “dolphins are one of the most peaceful and intelligent mammals on the planet”

    I’ll go along with the intelligent but not the ‘peaceful’. The evidence suggests otherwise.

    “We can’t state confidently that the killings are tied to declining fish stocks,” says dolphin expert Nick Tregenza, who advises the Marine Strandings Network in Cornwall. His guess? “They could be doing it for fun.”

    Bottlenose dolphins are known to spread behaviour culturally and there are extensive records of violence between and within dolphin pods”


    If you get the chance, visit Monkey Mia, take a trip on ‘Shotover’ (a former Brisbane to Gladstone winner). The scientists there are arguably the best in the world when it comes to explaining dolphin behaviour.

    “As one of the world’s most significant behavioural research sites, for months at a time it becomes home for scientists from USA, Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Scotland and Australia. At Monkey Mia the person standing next to you may well be one of the world’s leading research scientists.”


  14. scaper,

    Just nip over to Tangalooma! Much cheaper!

    We should be growing rabbits and shipping ’em over to Japan – if they are that hungry! Much easier to stir fry too! 😡

  15. TB, could be an export market for our cane toads.

  16. “nip over to Tangalooma! Much cheaper!

    ‘cheaper’ in all senses of the word. Lol.

  17. Nature 5, on January 27th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    What… Nah!

  18. Monkey mia is overdoing there research to the point of money before knowledge.

    These behaviours are not a mystery and there are many many reasons for this.

    first thing is these dolphins have to compete for food when it comes from the tourists, each pod wants this rich territory, when pods bread and young ones are around cousins(different breeds) its considered dangerous.
    different males from other pods have to be warned before they play up as they tend to group up and rape the female till she drowns. Theres much more too.This is normal behaviour from (hand feed) wild dolphins.

    Thats just my opinion.

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