Good Ideas and Lies

To try and get this blog going, here is our first real post.

I was reading Club Troppo today, and was struck by a simple line that Nicholas Gruen found in the New York Times blog of Paul Krugman:

Good ideas do not need lots of lies told about them in order to gain public acceptance.

It was primarily talking about the Wall St meltdown, but originally referred to the selling of the Iraq War. The problem with lies is that you keep having to tell them to cover your tracks. With the invasion of Iraq, the supporters of the invasion and subsequent debacle never want to admit that the initial reasons for the war were false. They prefer to keep saying how the non-supporters never thought the war would succeed – and how we were against the surge – and that the surge has worked.

And then I read today that another bomb in Baghdad has claimed at least 31 lives. Gee – those Iraqis just do not know how lucky they are to have a surge that is successful, because I am sure that we would not be getting lies about the success of the surge.

(and bloody hell, it is difficult to write these things – Mr Dunlop was damn good at it!)


5 Responses

  1. Nice set-up well done guys


  2. I am certain that Tim would agree..a very good 1st effort.

    The sad thing is that the majority of the war criminals are very likely to get away with it. I am thinking of civilian murders and rapes. Now if it was little colored people doing the murdering and the raping and the pillaging….

    However, given the current disaster that is the US economy one might be tempted to use the word karma. That is except for the usual collateral damage, the middle and lower classes.

    Hey that sounds good..since little Johnny’s departure we’re allowed to use the words ‘middle class’ again. I’ve heard the Americans use the word and so I’m using it too ;-))

  3. As TB might say

    Capitalism for profits, socialism for losses!

    I’ve heard much hyperbole from Obama and McCain about how the USA needs to become less dependant on oil.

    It makes a nice ‘voice-grab’ but I suspect is pretty much an impossible thing to achieve.

    Now that China is officially the World’s superpower, they are much better placed to outbid the USA for the world’s remaining oil supplies.

    I think things are going to get worse (globally) before they get better. NZ is already in recession. If we think we are immune we are just deluding ourselves…

  4. Great first post mate!
    Very concise, & yeah, Tim was VERY good at it; I’m sure it’s much harder than it looks.

    Completely agree about the selling of lies & the subsequent shifty behaviour by those who support the lies/the invasion.
    Pretty fkn sad that peoples lives become secondary to the semantics required to perpetuate the myth.
    I really can’t understand how anyone can be so married to their ideology that they will anchor themselves to such heinous acts in spite of the obvious “wrongness” of what they are allowing to be done in their name.

    To this day, the blogosphere is alive with staunch supporters of the death ,carnage & human tragedy for little other reason than it has been conducted by “their side” & must therefore have been the “right thing to do”; without pressing themselves to look past the RW talking points into the less altruistic reasons for said actions.

    Very easy (with a closed mind) to support war from afar I guess, & then to construct a myriad of reasons why others may wan’t to seek retribution against us…ignoring of course the fact that the retribution would be far less likely had we not decimated their country/family/culture on the other side of the planet for what amounts to personal gain for a select few at the top of the tree.

  5. Speaking of good ideas and lies, It must be almost two years ago, when the government announced sweeping changes to superannuation which would allow individuals to contribute up to $1m in Superannuation, which was previously unheard of.

    The move was design to encourage Australians to essentially save for their own retirement. The ability to access super and draw down an income from the age of 55 while still working was also part of the announced reforms.

    It’s been reported today, that people who invested up to $1 million in super would today have lost almost half of that money on paper.

    In what can only be described as bizzare, in response Peter Costello is now distancing himself from the reforms and declaring that Financial Advisers are the ones to blame for anyone that lost money!

    And he was “the world’s greatest treasurer?”

    I don’t think so!!

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