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By: Henderson On ‘The Howard Years’ « Under The Milky Way

Henderson On ‘The Howard Years’ « Under The Milky Way — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:26:11 +0000

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By: Miglo

Miglo — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:03:25 +0000

Peter Reith, the Defence Minster in 2001, must have old timer’s disease. . .

Or as David Marr and Marian Wilkinson put it, in their book Dark Victory: “Peter Reith demonstrated his extraordinary ability to deny the obvious.”

I would recommend this book to anybody who wants to know the absolute truth about the Tampa and the children overboard affair (or as the authors called ‘truth overboard’).

The removal of captions on the photos of refugees in the water was disgraceful. . .

Ironically, Howard and Reith were spitting chips that these photos existed as there was always the danger that they could show the human side of the refugees. Until of course, the captions could be removed for deceitful purposes.

If anybody has any doubt about Howard being a liar, then read the book.

By: kittylitter

kittylitter — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:59:58 +0000

And what about the “mob – to use the vernacular” who protested around the world? They did not believe the intelligence (sic).

Yes, but now when he’s been kindly allowed to re-write his own history uncriticised and unchallenged and use the ABC as his propaganda machine, its:

JOHN HOWARD, PRIME MINISTER 1996-2007: This was to me a classic example that from time to time if you believed something is right you have to go against public opinion. And this was certainly the case with Iraq. (from program transcript The Howard years, pt 3 ABC).

The mob is for him to use to his own political advantage eg the ’support the troops’ emotional blackmail. Then if they still won’t be turned by the ‘message’ and the spin, well, you just have to ignore them. The whole western ~~capitalist supremacy~~ way of life is at stake.

By: Miglo

Miglo — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:34:50 +0000

Min, I had the wool pulled over mum and dad’s eyes. They thought I was a little angel.

By: Min

Min — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:49:03 +0000

Miglo..I wouldn’t have thought that you wouldn’t have been let out that late at night in the 60’s and 70’s. I know that I wasn’t.

By: Miglo

Miglo — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:32:18 +0000

I’ve been real active protestor. In the late 60s early 70s I joined a Moratorium march against the Vietnam War, and about 10 years ago I hid in a crowd demanding that something be done to provide a better deal for Aborigines.

That’s two in 40 years. Hardly a serial pest.

By: Min

Min — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:01:23 +0000

On the subject of protests, my only turn-up was Springbok Melbourne 1971.

By: joni

joni — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:48:33 +0000

Then again, RS, someone did refer to me on blogocracy as being part of the “rent a mob” who go to all protests.

By: joni

joni — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:46:10 +0000

Indeed RS… I did the London and Sydney one. Never made it to the speeches in either as the crowds were so big.

And I still proudly wear my “Don’t attack Iraq” badge on my cap.

By: Ross Sharp

Ross Sharp — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:43:13 +0000

Joni –

I was at the Hyde Park protest in Sydney. I don’t “do” protests, and this was only the second I’d been to (the other was back in the 80’s when Reagan and Russia were making nasty noises at each other).

Myself and the 3 flatmates turned up, stood around for a few hours and watched people, then we left and went to the pub. For us, it was just about making a big crowd bigger, not placards and stuff.

But (I recall), Downer or Howard said something to the effect that by being there we were (1) supporters of terrorism (2) encouraging danger to and the death of Australian troops.

Number 1 is patently retarded but, as far as number 2 is concerned, if they had said that to my face, I would of happily taken the opportunity to relieve the little ***ts of their teeth.

Jesus, that really made me see red, that malarkey.